A growing number of citizen journalists and science dissenters put forth the theory that there was never a novel respiratory virus. That is, the entire "pandemic" was staged, primarily through fraudulent use of the dubious PCR diagnostic tests. For my part, I do NOT dismiss this possibility, which could be true.
However, I simply note that "something" was making more Americans sick in the months before "official Covid" ... and my hypothesis is that a certain percentage of these "sick" people very possibly could have had Covid - It just didn't kill them. That is, there very possibly was a novel new virus circulating, it just wasn't "deadly." I also note that most cold and flu and corona viruses are NOT "deadly" to 99.9 percent of the population .... so a contagious, non-deadly virus wouldn't be that great of a surprise or an anomaly.
And it IS an odd "coincidence" that so many more people got "sick" with signature "Covid symptoms" just a few weeks or months before the birth of Covid "spread" was announced.
Have you ever considered that the flu shots had Covid in them? Or that they could actually drop Chem trails from the skies to make people sick. Or that poisoning the water could also take place. I got sick in fall of 2019. My wife was sick most of December of 2019. I’m of the opinion that there might not even be a Covid virus but a poison that has all of symptoms that were like the general cold/flu.
Yes, I have considered that James. Several smart people I read have posited that something in the flu shots might have caused all or many of these sicknesses - maybe before official Covid and also in Year 2 of official Covid. As we can all remember, there was a huge spike in "cases," hospitalizations and deaths beginning in November 2020 and continuing through about February or March 2021. I've always wondered if these cases and deaths might be related to that year's flu shot.
I too sensed there was a consciousness to it. I also sensed that there was something somehow electric in its attack. That didn't last long, however, and otherwise it was very similar to the flu. Not fun, but no big deal.
Seems like an invitation to repost this here, Bill - this theory I stumbled into awhile back holds up to the latest findings you've dug up:
It would be prudent to start digging around into what was actually in those 2019 flu jabs that could have precipitated the entire pandemic. And we know that vaccines shed, especially the live-attenuated types that were used in the 2019-2020 flu season design, so one didn't need to receive the flu shot that year to have gotten very sick from it. And the 2019 flu jab used a known severe H3N2 variant that was hotly debated about its inclusion in the quadrivalent because it was known to be very severe. Here's some interesting information that may help connect some dots when paired with the study in the Rounding the Earth Substack link. And don't miss the November, 2019 CNN Fauci piece towards the end that is also very, very curious to consider given all that has transpired since.
- This publication describes a brand-new style of flu vaccine that came online for the 2019-2020 flu season. Mammalian cell-based instead of egg-based. Claims that it was studied for efficacy...but no mention of safety trials:
"A new cell-based seasonal influenza vaccine has been issued marketing approval by the European Commission and will be available for the 2019/2020 flu season.
Flucelvax® Tetra (Seqirus) is the first cell-based quadrivalent influenza vaccine (QIVc) to be made available in Europe and is licensed for use in individuals aged nine years and older.
To date, there have been no randomised controlled trials comparing the efficacy of QIVc and standard egg-based quadrivalent vaccines (QIVe)"
“This real-world study, along with other emerging evidence, indicates that cell-based influenza vaccines may result in better influenza-related outcomes compared to standard egg-based vaccine options in some seasons"
"In the UK, the potential advantages of QIVc, which is cultured in mammalian cells rather than eggs"
“We are pleased to be bringing Flucelvax Tetra to the UK next season and have sufficient capacity at our cell-based manufacturing facility in the US to also ensure supply in September 2019"
- This article is interesting. It says that they added live-attenuated influenza vaccines to the schedule. It goes on to say that flu vaccines most definitely, positively, absolutely don't cause the flu, and by that definition won't shed...even after all of the science on vaccines admit that live-attenuated vaccines do shed. Curious:
"The 2019–2020 influenza vaccine recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) have remained mostly the same, with the exception of adding the LAIV to the immunization schedule."
- These articles tell us about what the WHO's process is and what they decided the 2019-2020 vaccine recommendations would be. I'll note that the first link speaks to concerns with preparing for H3N2 from the prior year, while the second link says they ended up not developing that specific strain of vaccines, after all, and the third link says they went ahead and included the H3N2 variant, after all. H3N2 was a "very severe" variant:
- Now, this is an interesting story from CNN that came out in November, 2019, an important time frame in the evolution of the CV story. Note the discussion about the need to develop a new type of all-purpose vaccine, a desire to test it widely, one that focused on a protein they link to a particular virus...like, say, a spike protein. Fauci is frequently quoted in it:
"But a universal flu shot would theoretically cover every strain of the flu using what’s known as an ice cream cone approach."
"Last spring, doctors at the NIH started testing universal flu shots on Sonn and other study participants to see how their bodies respond.
The research got an extra push in September when President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at developing a better flu vaccine.
Fauci said it could take less time – but still many years – to develop a semi-universal flu shot, which would protect against not all flu viruses, but rather a group of flu viruses."
"The faster and more precise method is not to grow the virus at all and instead just create the virus’ protein, he said.
“We clone the gene that codes for the specific protein we want,” Fauci said. “I don’t even want to see the virus. I just need the sequence of that virus, the genetic map of that virus. And you could send that to me by email.”
That’s the technology that’s being used to create the vaccines being trialed on participants like Sonn right now.
“We feel like we’re pioneers, and our volunteers are pioneers,” Ledgerwood said."
How does the 2019 flu vaccine look like now? And how does that CNN piece from November, 2019 read in hindsight now?
And there is a strong correlation between the flu vaccine and Coronavirus susceptibility:
If true, it would absolutely rock the flu vaccine industry, top to bottom, along with the DOD working hand in hand with Big Pharma. And any global cabal that needs health emergency powers to become unburdened by what has been and build back better.
If flu vaccines can be demonstrated to have been carriers of the disease called Covid-19 that required global uptake of a new, experimental biotech injection pushed by the vaccine industry that's a whole lot of trailing 0's behind the $ sign at stake. And entire industries, reputations, it would be devastating. And it couldn't stop at just the 2019-2020 flu vaccine. Investigation would have to go back to every year since they were first rolled out, decades. How much illness and death could they be responsible for spreading? How much financial liability would be at stake for wrongful death claims? How much criminality would be involved by very powerful and wealthy people?
Bill, there's a whole lot at stake that such a revelation would jeopardize. And anyone who gets close enough to finding it, who has the credibility to reveal it, and is capable of revealing it to a large enough audience to threaten those behind it would become such a danger to the regime that they'd have to be eliminated.
If we can be dismissed as kooks, conspiracy anti-vax nutters our lives are safe. But if we gain traction, are able to make an impeccable case on a large enough platform...we must live our best lives every single day knowing there's no guaranty of another. Just sayin'. This line of investigation isn't for the faint of heart.
Bill, lots of my friends had a non a non b flu all that winter, and i got it too in March(never crossed my mind it was Covid)...but you will never get the owners of the Plandemicit to admit it was a non life threatening flu......if you look at latypovas stack..she is basically saying that the dod fort Derrick got 1 (useless) sample from Washington state..and then had an executive order done that gave them the ability to detain anyone for pretty much any reason without due process or proof..on suspicion of being asymptomatic or presymptomatic...so no science needed just a signature and we need to worry about that law still on the books..along with the military invasion of our country by illegals who are now granted citizenship and will be patrolling our streets to put down any protests over a stolen election.
All coming up in the next three months.
I'm sorry...I know what you say is true. Personally I believe it was a flu...and to start a pandemic they hyped it up and spread non replicating ralphie baric patented infectious clones on I 85 and in certain locations. to induce panic and shut 7s down and destroy small and medium businesses.
There is no longer any doubt among critical thinkers that this was planned. Question is how do we fight back when it's done again?
I do believe Covid was spreading in late 2019 as you say. Well said, all of your arguments for such. I also believe Covid is “real” and don’t really understand why people insist it doesn’t really exist. I’ve had Covid once and I am unvaxxed. It was just a 3 day affair due to the FLCCC protocol, which made me feel unbelievably better within a couple days on both HCQ and IVM. But I will say this: there was something weird about that bug- it made my BRAIN feel strange, as if someone had filled my head and lungs with cotton batting. It was also profoundly fatiguing for those 3 days I was ill. No real cough though. No fever either. But brain fog and fatigue to beat the band! I do credit the FLCCC doctors’ protocol for kicking Covid’s *ss. The person who infected me was 35 years younger than I and he was hacking and coughing and bedridden for over a week-(no treatment did he take)- because “Covid isn’t real.” Yeah, right… Until it is.
COVID symptoms were not unique. Some have said what might be called COVID was "just the flu". Others have pointed out it was more like pneumonia. In 2020 doctors were fascinated by what looked like hypoxia; apparently they had not previously seen hypoxia combined with flu or pneumonia.
Is it not odd that after almost five years there is no definitive set of symptoms for COVID?
For thousands of years illness was defined by symptoms. Apparently it is now defined by edict.
Because it's for our own good! You can't be asking these types of questions, Bill. Get back in line!
Back in reality, it's because it's all a scam. I am of the side that we should all be continuing to call this a scamdemic. There was no pandemic. It was everything but. Denis Rancourt has already nailed this with his all cause mortality studies, particularly his most recent one: https://correlation-canada.org/covid-excess-mortality-125-countries/
I make basically the same point as Dr. Rancourt. It wasn't "Covid" that killed these alleged "7 million people." If a disease can kill this many people and was spreading many months earlier, all the deaths would have begun to show up much earlier.
Many people got sick with these not-quite "ILI" symptoms, in all northern continents. It was indeed a pandemic. What has mortality to do with it? That isn't part of the definition of "pandemic". Did you mean "There was no plague"?
Basically, we had a very bad flu season - but fortunately said "flu" didn't kill hardly anyone (although I do think plenty of "Covid deaths" were probably missed - this number of deaths just wasn't high enough to show up as a spike on any of the all-cause death graphs).
The government could have done absolutely nothing - and nobody would have known anything scary was happening.
I believe the CDC considers an illness to be a pandemic when there are deaths. Otherwise they would have egg on their faces for not labeling malaria as a pandemic. I believe WHO was established to stop malaria, which is now worse than it has ever been. But . . . vaccines do not stop malaria. Sanitation, clean drinking water, and nutritious food seem to be the best treatment. Not enough money in that.
OFF TOPIC: Regarding my recent cross-post about Jenna McCarthy's excellent new book, Jenna emailed me and reminded me to tell everyone to type in "Rice" in the appropriate field if you order a book. That allows her to send her royalty checks to the right contributor.
As they say, every royalty check adds up. (I've actually never got a royalty check so I'm looking forward to my first one).
Maybe the reason that rising incidences of flu were not late 2019's headline stories, is that the entire Covid psyop, complete with billion-dollar miracle vaccines, was not quite ready for public rollout.
I think you might be right-on, Roger. There's got to be some reason "public health authorities" refuse to honestly investigate or "confirm" the copious evidence of "early spread."
thanks, Bobby. That's probably the main point I've tried to make in all my "early spread" articles. They couldn't let people know the virus had already infected millions of people.
I know someone who was severely ill around Christmas 2019 with what in retrospect seems like Covid symptoms.
FWIW I was severely ill around March 2019 with some strange virus that only impacted my Eustachian tubes so that I could barely hear for about a month. I had no other symptoms except extreme fatigue for about two months. When I went to the doctor he said he was seeing a large number of similar "strange illnesses."
I've written two very long stories where I simply present anecdotes of people who think they had "early Covid." A good number of these people think they had Covid well before November 2019. FWIW, I don't discount the "anecdotes," especially when there are huge numbers of people saying basically the same thing - or believing the same thing.
It is just a common sense conclusion. I am sure I had it at the very beginning of January 2020. My physician refused to test for antibodies later that year. I haven't officially had Covid in the intervening time despite no shot.
I'm the same Betsy. I also was very sick in January 2020 (so were my two children and seemingly 1/3rd or 1/4th of my town). I felt so bad I went to the doctor, which I rarely do ... and I did get a flu test (which was "negative.") I also never got Covid after this illness.
A clinic administrator, a friend, later told me this large clinic (that serves 12 counties) was inundated with sick people in December 2019 and January 2020. Every doctor and nurse was very surprised that very few of these sick patients were "testing positive for flu."
She told me (direct quote): "We thought something must be wrong with the flu tests."
My wife was also a high school teacher. She told me "half" of one of her classes was absent one day in January and the school couldn't find enough subs for all the sick teachers. At least half of my daughter's third grade class all got sick at the same time, including her teacher and all of this teacher's children.
That, in my opinion, was the first big wave of Covid in our town.
FWIW, ILI percentages (reported by the CDC and state health agencies) went above the historic baseline far earlier in 2019 than almost all previous flu seasons.
I wonder if more flu jabs were given in 2019-2020? I had never had one in my life. But I had been on a PIC line for 8 weeks to resolve a bone infection, and then oral antibiotic for 3 months. My Dr wanted me to have a flu shot because she said it was shaping up to be a ‘bad year’ and my immune system was trashed due to the bone infection and 5 months of antibiotics. So I reluctantly got one. Within one week I developed peripheral neuropathy in my feet which has never resolved. I never made the possible connection to the flu jab until reports of neurological issues relating to Covid jab began to surface. I declined that of course. And the antibiotics I was on have neurological issues as possible side effects. But I had no issues until I got the flu jab in Oct 2019.
Plandemic 1.0 was just a dry run of information gathering for how people will react and what works or doesn’t. They’ve had 4 years to plan and perfect. Here’s an example of how we will be treated once the duo scam of Monkey pox and bird flu bust out as Plandemic 2.0…Quarantines will be widespread, draconian, and will have little to do with illness and everything to do with those who resist.
Let's not forget that in the first winter of COVID, there were essentially no reported flu deaths. Normally, they run in the tens of thousands. Given the similarities between COVID and flu, and that hospitals got paid BIG BUCKS to treat COVID deaths, chances are, all those flu deaths got reported as COVID deaths.
It's been decades since I had any basic trust in the federal government. It's worse now.
I lost my "sense of taste" when I was sick in January 2020 and this is a very common symptom of people who think they had Covid. I do, however, think this symptom is common for many other "bugs."
FWIW, My signature or unique symptoms were a painful, violent and lingering cough and extreme shortness of breath. I do think my sickness of January 2020 was somehow different than other bouts of flu I'd had.
I remember on Monday I covered a local scholarship signing event for a golfer with Tourette's I was writing about. The next day, I got called from my 3rd grader's school and had to check her out due to illness. That night, I took my son to a local college basketball game. I had to leave early in the 2nd half because I suddenly had a bad sore throat and chills coming on. On the way home, I stopped at Dollar General to get all the usual flu medicines. That night I was sick as a dog and stayed that way for about a week.
I later found out that about half of my daughter's class got sick; so did their teacher and their teacher's four children. Of the people I spent a lot of time talking to at the scholarship-signing event, three got sick (probably from me?), including the kid who signed the golf scholarship.
My wife later told me our local high school was a ghost town for several days.
Needless to say, I am not one who believes there are no "contagious viruses." I don't think that was 5-G that made so many people so sick (with the same symptoms) all at once.
I had the hurts to breath for 2 weeks after the " flu" in March 2020. It never occurred to me to go see a doctor cause I smoke...most just say what do you expect if you smoke?
Yes, Bill, my symptoms also. My cough wasn't so bad but the shortness of breath was something I really noticed. It was in all a bit worse than a bad cold for me but not as bad as a couple of past episodes of flu.
I admit these symptoms aren't exactly "novel." Still, I hadn't experienced them to this extent in my previous 50 years on this earth. For me, it shared many traits of the "flu," but not all of the typical flu symptoms. For example, I didn't have a bad running nose, sneezing and excessive phlegm. I didn't have much nausea or ever throw up or have major bathroom issues.
I'm a Canadian (southwest B.C.) who got my "yearly" flu shot in early Nov. 2019 and then on Jan 15th got the worse flu I have ever experienced (all the so called covid symptoms) and sat by the phone for 3 days wondering if I needed to call the doctor and saying to myself...he will just tell me its a flu and I know what to do for myself! I survived at age 80 even tho my kids where worried I would die of Covid if I didn't get the shot!! As soon as "covid" emerged in the narrative, I was thankful I had the "the flu" in January or I might have panicked in fear of being diagnosed with covid. Also thankful that I recognized all the lies and never got the shot... So yes I do believe there was early spread in the fall of 2019. Here in Canada they don't do testing if you have the flu or promote Tamiflu at all.
A friend of mine had a really severe respiratory illness in November of 2019 wherein he coughed so hard he broke several ribs. (He’s reasonably healthy and was in his late thirties at the time.) His influenza tests were all negative and the doctor told him that there was some sort of “new” and particularly “nasty” respiratory virus in circulation. My boss was also super sick in January of 2020, and they never figured out the cause. By April most of the people in my circle were well aware that “Covid” had clearly been circulating in our community for some time and that the chaos and panic was agenda driven.
If this hypothesis is correct, this would also mean that much greater percentages of the population than has been acknowledged already had acquired natural immunity.
That fiercely smart doctor who wrote heroes and villains for covid( name is a blank now) figured out everyone was exposed by jan2021 when they rolled out the jabs.
DR Reid Sheftall!!!! That's his name! You gotta love a doctor who gets thrown out of Vegas for card counting!!!! In my neck of the woods we call people like that Wicked Smaht!
Bill, you state that maybe some of these flu tests may have been people that had Covid earlier than we were told that is was around, but it still doesn't take away the fact that Covid could have just been "rebranded flu" and that flu all but suddenly disappeared the first year Covid took over. Linking once again @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
I'm open to the possibility that Covid was simply "re-branded" flu.
I think "Covid" was probably a novel virus because more people suddenly got "sick," the symptoms were slightly different than typical flu or bugs ... and there's so much evidence that scientists WERE tinkering with viruses in labs - and then went to great lengths to cover this up.
Either scenario - a new contagious virus that's not "deadly" or no virus at all - qualifies as a massive scandal. Under both scenarios, the increase in all-cause deaths wasn't caused by a new virus but by government actions or the response to the virus. As I've written, this meets the definition of democide on a massive scale.
A growing number of citizen journalists and science dissenters put forth the theory that there was never a novel respiratory virus. That is, the entire "pandemic" was staged, primarily through fraudulent use of the dubious PCR diagnostic tests. For my part, I do NOT dismiss this possibility, which could be true.
However, I simply note that "something" was making more Americans sick in the months before "official Covid" ... and my hypothesis is that a certain percentage of these "sick" people very possibly could have had Covid - It just didn't kill them. That is, there very possibly was a novel new virus circulating, it just wasn't "deadly." I also note that most cold and flu and corona viruses are NOT "deadly" to 99.9 percent of the population .... so a contagious, non-deadly virus wouldn't be that great of a surprise or an anomaly.
And it IS an odd "coincidence" that so many more people got "sick" with signature "Covid symptoms" just a few weeks or months before the birth of Covid "spread" was announced.
Have you ever considered that the flu shots had Covid in them? Or that they could actually drop Chem trails from the skies to make people sick. Or that poisoning the water could also take place. I got sick in fall of 2019. My wife was sick most of December of 2019. I’m of the opinion that there might not even be a Covid virus but a poison that has all of symptoms that were like the general cold/flu.
Me thinks no virus
No pandemic
Fake PCR test
Some sort of poisoning actually before March 12th
2020.
No novel virus that has been in text books.
Yes, I have considered that James. Several smart people I read have posited that something in the flu shots might have caused all or many of these sicknesses - maybe before official Covid and also in Year 2 of official Covid. As we can all remember, there was a huge spike in "cases," hospitalizations and deaths beginning in November 2020 and continuing through about February or March 2021. I've always wondered if these cases and deaths might be related to that year's flu shot.
My symptoms were as follows:
Screaming ear ache2. 2. Blood shots eyes 3. GI issues 4. Lethargic 5. No breathing issues
And the strangest of all it felt like whatever it was had a consciousness to it.. testing my heart and lungs. My one friend said the same thing.
I figure the more we share the better our understanding becomes.
I too sensed there was a consciousness to it. I also sensed that there was something somehow electric in its attack. That didn't last long, however, and otherwise it was very similar to the flu. Not fun, but no big deal.
That is scary as hell James...
I didn't find it scary, just kinda freaky.
Seems like an invitation to repost this here, Bill - this theory I stumbled into awhile back holds up to the latest findings you've dug up:
It would be prudent to start digging around into what was actually in those 2019 flu jabs that could have precipitated the entire pandemic. And we know that vaccines shed, especially the live-attenuated types that were used in the 2019-2020 flu season design, so one didn't need to receive the flu shot that year to have gotten very sick from it. And the 2019 flu jab used a known severe H3N2 variant that was hotly debated about its inclusion in the quadrivalent because it was known to be very severe. Here's some interesting information that may help connect some dots when paired with the study in the Rounding the Earth Substack link. And don't miss the November, 2019 CNN Fauci piece towards the end that is also very, very curious to consider given all that has transpired since.
- This publication describes a brand-new style of flu vaccine that came online for the 2019-2020 flu season. Mammalian cell-based instead of egg-based. Claims that it was studied for efficacy...but no mention of safety trials:
https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/first-cell-based-quadrivalent-vaccine-available-for-2019-2020-flu-season
"A new cell-based seasonal influenza vaccine has been issued marketing approval by the European Commission and will be available for the 2019/2020 flu season.
Flucelvax® Tetra (Seqirus) is the first cell-based quadrivalent influenza vaccine (QIVc) to be made available in Europe and is licensed for use in individuals aged nine years and older.
To date, there have been no randomised controlled trials comparing the efficacy of QIVc and standard egg-based quadrivalent vaccines (QIVe)"
“This real-world study, along with other emerging evidence, indicates that cell-based influenza vaccines may result in better influenza-related outcomes compared to standard egg-based vaccine options in some seasons"
"In the UK, the potential advantages of QIVc, which is cultured in mammalian cells rather than eggs"
“We are pleased to be bringing Flucelvax Tetra to the UK next season and have sufficient capacity at our cell-based manufacturing facility in the US to also ensure supply in September 2019"
- This article is interesting. It says that they added live-attenuated influenza vaccines to the schedule. It goes on to say that flu vaccines most definitely, positively, absolutely don't cause the flu, and by that definition won't shed...even after all of the science on vaccines admit that live-attenuated vaccines do shed. Curious:
https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/20192020-influenza-vaccine-update
"The 2019–2020 influenza vaccine recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) have remained mostly the same, with the exception of adding the LAIV to the immunization schedule."
- These articles tell us about what the WHO's process is and what they decided the 2019-2020 vaccine recommendations would be. I'll note that the first link speaks to concerns with preparing for H3N2 from the prior year, while the second link says they ended up not developing that specific strain of vaccines, after all, and the third link says they went ahead and included the H3N2 variant, after all. H3N2 was a "very severe" variant:
https://elemental.medium.com/inside-the-making-of-the-flu-vaccine-c5d6f8cd174c
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/who-vaccine-recommendations-are-used-pharmaceutical-companies-develop-produce-and-license-influenza
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/918053
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- Now, this is an interesting story from CNN that came out in November, 2019, an important time frame in the evolution of the CV story. Note the discussion about the need to develop a new type of all-purpose vaccine, a desire to test it widely, one that focused on a protein they link to a particular virus...like, say, a spike protein. Fauci is frequently quoted in it:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/29/health/universal-flu-vaccine/index.html
"But a universal flu shot would theoretically cover every strain of the flu using what’s known as an ice cream cone approach."
"Last spring, doctors at the NIH started testing universal flu shots on Sonn and other study participants to see how their bodies respond.
The research got an extra push in September when President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at developing a better flu vaccine.
Fauci said it could take less time – but still many years – to develop a semi-universal flu shot, which would protect against not all flu viruses, but rather a group of flu viruses."
"The faster and more precise method is not to grow the virus at all and instead just create the virus’ protein, he said.
“We clone the gene that codes for the specific protein we want,” Fauci said. “I don’t even want to see the virus. I just need the sequence of that virus, the genetic map of that virus. And you could send that to me by email.”
That’s the technology that’s being used to create the vaccines being trialed on participants like Sonn right now.
“We feel like we’re pioneers, and our volunteers are pioneers,” Ledgerwood said."
How does the 2019 flu vaccine look like now? And how does that CNN piece from November, 2019 read in hindsight now?
And there is a strong correlation between the flu vaccine and Coronavirus susceptibility:
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/how-flu-vaccines-accidentally-reveal
Thanks again, FF. I have a lot of reading to do. I think you are onto something possibly very big and completely overlooked by most people.
If true, it would absolutely rock the flu vaccine industry, top to bottom, along with the DOD working hand in hand with Big Pharma. And any global cabal that needs health emergency powers to become unburdened by what has been and build back better.
If flu vaccines can be demonstrated to have been carriers of the disease called Covid-19 that required global uptake of a new, experimental biotech injection pushed by the vaccine industry that's a whole lot of trailing 0's behind the $ sign at stake. And entire industries, reputations, it would be devastating. And it couldn't stop at just the 2019-2020 flu vaccine. Investigation would have to go back to every year since they were first rolled out, decades. How much illness and death could they be responsible for spreading? How much financial liability would be at stake for wrongful death claims? How much criminality would be involved by very powerful and wealthy people?
Bill, there's a whole lot at stake that such a revelation would jeopardize. And anyone who gets close enough to finding it, who has the credibility to reveal it, and is capable of revealing it to a large enough audience to threaten those behind it would become such a danger to the regime that they'd have to be eliminated.
If we can be dismissed as kooks, conspiracy anti-vax nutters our lives are safe. But if we gain traction, are able to make an impeccable case on a large enough platform...we must live our best lives every single day knowing there's no guaranty of another. Just sayin'. This line of investigation isn't for the faint of heart.
No pandemic, no PCR test, fake or otherwise. Biotrail spread was a distinct possibility.
Coronavirus found in chicks in 1930, and pictured in 1964. https://www.the-scientist.com/coronavirus-closeup-1964-67858 (Membership apparently required to view full article.)
Bill, lots of my friends had a non a non b flu all that winter, and i got it too in March(never crossed my mind it was Covid)...but you will never get the owners of the Plandemicit to admit it was a non life threatening flu......if you look at latypovas stack..she is basically saying that the dod fort Derrick got 1 (useless) sample from Washington state..and then had an executive order done that gave them the ability to detain anyone for pretty much any reason without due process or proof..on suspicion of being asymptomatic or presymptomatic...so no science needed just a signature and we need to worry about that law still on the books..along with the military invasion of our country by illegals who are now granted citizenship and will be patrolling our streets to put down any protests over a stolen election.
All coming up in the next three months.
I'm sorry...I know what you say is true. Personally I believe it was a flu...and to start a pandemic they hyped it up and spread non replicating ralphie baric patented infectious clones on I 85 and in certain locations. to induce panic and shut 7s down and destroy small and medium businesses.
There is no longer any doubt among critical thinkers that this was planned. Question is how do we fight back when it's done again?
It will be damned difficult to begin to fight back if we wait until the next assault begins.
I do believe Covid was spreading in late 2019 as you say. Well said, all of your arguments for such. I also believe Covid is “real” and don’t really understand why people insist it doesn’t really exist. I’ve had Covid once and I am unvaxxed. It was just a 3 day affair due to the FLCCC protocol, which made me feel unbelievably better within a couple days on both HCQ and IVM. But I will say this: there was something weird about that bug- it made my BRAIN feel strange, as if someone had filled my head and lungs with cotton batting. It was also profoundly fatiguing for those 3 days I was ill. No real cough though. No fever either. But brain fog and fatigue to beat the band! I do credit the FLCCC doctors’ protocol for kicking Covid’s *ss. The person who infected me was 35 years younger than I and he was hacking and coughing and bedridden for over a week-(no treatment did he take)- because “Covid isn’t real.” Yeah, right… Until it is.
PCR-enhanced covid diagnostic fluorescence tests weren't readily available until the original strain of covid-19 was nearly gone.
If it was early Covid, I think it peaked in December 2019, January 2020 and the first week or two of February 2020.
COVID symptoms were not unique. Some have said what might be called COVID was "just the flu". Others have pointed out it was more like pneumonia. In 2020 doctors were fascinated by what looked like hypoxia; apparently they had not previously seen hypoxia combined with flu or pneumonia.
Is it not odd that after almost five years there is no definitive set of symptoms for COVID?
For thousands of years illness was defined by symptoms. Apparently it is now defined by edict.
Because it's for our own good! You can't be asking these types of questions, Bill. Get back in line!
Back in reality, it's because it's all a scam. I am of the side that we should all be continuing to call this a scamdemic. There was no pandemic. It was everything but. Denis Rancourt has already nailed this with his all cause mortality studies, particularly his most recent one: https://correlation-canada.org/covid-excess-mortality-125-countries/
I make basically the same point as Dr. Rancourt. It wasn't "Covid" that killed these alleged "7 million people." If a disease can kill this many people and was spreading many months earlier, all the deaths would have begun to show up much earlier.
Many people got sick with these not-quite "ILI" symptoms, in all northern continents. It was indeed a pandemic. What has mortality to do with it? That isn't part of the definition of "pandemic". Did you mean "There was no plague"?
Basically, we had a very bad flu season - but fortunately said "flu" didn't kill hardly anyone (although I do think plenty of "Covid deaths" were probably missed - this number of deaths just wasn't high enough to show up as a spike on any of the all-cause death graphs).
The government could have done absolutely nothing - and nobody would have known anything scary was happening.
I believe the CDC considers an illness to be a pandemic when there are deaths. Otherwise they would have egg on their faces for not labeling malaria as a pandemic. I believe WHO was established to stop malaria, which is now worse than it has ever been. But . . . vaccines do not stop malaria. Sanitation, clean drinking water, and nutritious food seem to be the best treatment. Not enough money in that.
OFF TOPIC: Regarding my recent cross-post about Jenna McCarthy's excellent new book, Jenna emailed me and reminded me to tell everyone to type in "Rice" in the appropriate field if you order a book. That allows her to send her royalty checks to the right contributor.
As they say, every royalty check adds up. (I've actually never got a royalty check so I'm looking forward to my first one).
Maybe the reason that rising incidences of flu were not late 2019's headline stories, is that the entire Covid psyop, complete with billion-dollar miracle vaccines, was not quite ready for public rollout.
I think you might be right-on, Roger. There's got to be some reason "public health authorities" refuse to honestly investigate or "confirm" the copious evidence of "early spread."
What they didn't investigate is all part of the "dog that didn't bark" evidence.
We need to investigate the practices and rules that govern "public health authorities". I suspect that they have little autonomy.
Good point. Where were the MSM articles and news videos? Waiting for the starting bell?
If we knew that Covid was already around, then they wouldn't have been able to scare us or get us to take a "vaccine".
thanks, Bobby. That's probably the main point I've tried to make in all my "early spread" articles. They couldn't let people know the virus had already infected millions of people.
And they aren't about to let on now, because then no one would fall for it NEXT time.
I know someone who was severely ill around Christmas 2019 with what in retrospect seems like Covid symptoms.
FWIW I was severely ill around March 2019 with some strange virus that only impacted my Eustachian tubes so that I could barely hear for about a month. I had no other symptoms except extreme fatigue for about two months. When I went to the doctor he said he was seeing a large number of similar "strange illnesses."
I've written two very long stories where I simply present anecdotes of people who think they had "early Covid." A good number of these people think they had Covid well before November 2019. FWIW, I don't discount the "anecdotes," especially when there are huge numbers of people saying basically the same thing - or believing the same thing.
I had in one ear a screaming noise for 3 days.
This was early March 2020 or before the hype of Covid.
It is just a common sense conclusion. I am sure I had it at the very beginning of January 2020. My physician refused to test for antibodies later that year. I haven't officially had Covid in the intervening time despite no shot.
I'm the same Betsy. I also was very sick in January 2020 (so were my two children and seemingly 1/3rd or 1/4th of my town). I felt so bad I went to the doctor, which I rarely do ... and I did get a flu test (which was "negative.") I also never got Covid after this illness.
A clinic administrator, a friend, later told me this large clinic (that serves 12 counties) was inundated with sick people in December 2019 and January 2020. Every doctor and nurse was very surprised that very few of these sick patients were "testing positive for flu."
She told me (direct quote): "We thought something must be wrong with the flu tests."
My wife was also a high school teacher. She told me "half" of one of her classes was absent one day in January and the school couldn't find enough subs for all the sick teachers. At least half of my daughter's third grade class all got sick at the same time, including her teacher and all of this teacher's children.
That, in my opinion, was the first big wave of Covid in our town.
Sept 2019 had flu
FWIW, ILI percentages (reported by the CDC and state health agencies) went above the historic baseline far earlier in 2019 than almost all previous flu seasons.
I wonder if more flu jabs were given in 2019-2020? I had never had one in my life. But I had been on a PIC line for 8 weeks to resolve a bone infection, and then oral antibiotic for 3 months. My Dr wanted me to have a flu shot because she said it was shaping up to be a ‘bad year’ and my immune system was trashed due to the bone infection and 5 months of antibiotics. So I reluctantly got one. Within one week I developed peripheral neuropathy in my feet which has never resolved. I never made the possible connection to the flu jab until reports of neurological issues relating to Covid jab began to surface. I declined that of course. And the antibiotics I was on have neurological issues as possible side effects. But I had no issues until I got the flu jab in Oct 2019.
Plandemic 1.0 was just a dry run of information gathering for how people will react and what works or doesn’t. They’ve had 4 years to plan and perfect. Here’s an example of how we will be treated once the duo scam of Monkey pox and bird flu bust out as Plandemic 2.0…Quarantines will be widespread, draconian, and will have little to do with illness and everything to do with those who resist.
https://open.substack.com/pub/sashalatypova/p/grand-princess-quarantine-orders-6d4?r=15k78n&utm_medium=ios
I've had Bird Flu on my "Danger, Will Robinson" radar for months. What's up with this sudden interest in Monkey Pox?
It sure is peculiar.
Here are a couple recent posts regarding MPox
https://open.substack.com/pub/worldcouncilforhealth/p/monkeypox-reality-check?r=15k78n&utm_medium=ios
https://open.substack.com/pub/jamesroguski/p/whos-temporary-recommendations-regarding?r=15k78n&utm_medium=ios
I just read one linked at Citizen Free Press. It sounds like they are going full speed ahead on the mRNA MonkeyPox non-vaccine. Unbelievable.
All by design! They truly want us dead!
My theory is that Bird Flu didn't pan out as "Disease X" so "they" had to find a replacement.
Yup that's the one I was thinking of. We are so f'd
Let's not forget that in the first winter of COVID, there were essentially no reported flu deaths. Normally, they run in the tens of thousands. Given the similarities between COVID and flu, and that hospitals got paid BIG BUCKS to treat COVID deaths, chances are, all those flu deaths got reported as COVID deaths.
It's been decades since I had any basic trust in the federal government. It's worse now.
The disappearing flu is another massive head-scratcher and is completely non-sensical.
Dishonesty of Govt. activities sows confusion. The public is left to figure things out…
The flu or early Covid people mention below: did they include the loss of taste and smell?
I lost my "sense of taste" when I was sick in January 2020 and this is a very common symptom of people who think they had Covid. I do, however, think this symptom is common for many other "bugs."
FWIW, My signature or unique symptoms were a painful, violent and lingering cough and extreme shortness of breath. I do think my sickness of January 2020 was somehow different than other bouts of flu I'd had.
I remember on Monday I covered a local scholarship signing event for a golfer with Tourette's I was writing about. The next day, I got called from my 3rd grader's school and had to check her out due to illness. That night, I took my son to a local college basketball game. I had to leave early in the 2nd half because I suddenly had a bad sore throat and chills coming on. On the way home, I stopped at Dollar General to get all the usual flu medicines. That night I was sick as a dog and stayed that way for about a week.
I later found out that about half of my daughter's class got sick; so did their teacher and their teacher's four children. Of the people I spent a lot of time talking to at the scholarship-signing event, three got sick (probably from me?), including the kid who signed the golf scholarship.
My wife later told me our local high school was a ghost town for several days.
Needless to say, I am not one who believes there are no "contagious viruses." I don't think that was 5-G that made so many people so sick (with the same symptoms) all at once.
Oh yeah, and my son got sick too. All three of us tested "negative" for the flu. I will say I was, by far, the sickest.
I had the hurts to breath for 2 weeks after the " flu" in March 2020. It never occurred to me to go see a doctor cause I smoke...most just say what do you expect if you smoke?
Yes, Bill, my symptoms also. My cough wasn't so bad but the shortness of breath was something I really noticed. It was in all a bit worse than a bad cold for me but not as bad as a couple of past episodes of flu.
Going by your "unique symptoms," I had it in the early, mid 1990s.
I admit these symptoms aren't exactly "novel." Still, I hadn't experienced them to this extent in my previous 50 years on this earth. For me, it shared many traits of the "flu," but not all of the typical flu symptoms. For example, I didn't have a bad running nose, sneezing and excessive phlegm. I didn't have much nausea or ever throw up or have major bathroom issues.
It also came on much faster.
I still wonder when the first 5g tower went up in my town..I think it was about that time..
Disturbingly scandalous.
I think so too, Johnny ... but there's not many of us who consider failure to honestly investigate or consider "early spread" as a "scandal."
I'm a Canadian (southwest B.C.) who got my "yearly" flu shot in early Nov. 2019 and then on Jan 15th got the worse flu I have ever experienced (all the so called covid symptoms) and sat by the phone for 3 days wondering if I needed to call the doctor and saying to myself...he will just tell me its a flu and I know what to do for myself! I survived at age 80 even tho my kids where worried I would die of Covid if I didn't get the shot!! As soon as "covid" emerged in the narrative, I was thankful I had the "the flu" in January or I might have panicked in fear of being diagnosed with covid. Also thankful that I recognized all the lies and never got the shot... So yes I do believe there was early spread in the fall of 2019. Here in Canada they don't do testing if you have the flu or promote Tamiflu at all.
A friend of mine had a really severe respiratory illness in November of 2019 wherein he coughed so hard he broke several ribs. (He’s reasonably healthy and was in his late thirties at the time.) His influenza tests were all negative and the doctor told him that there was some sort of “new” and particularly “nasty” respiratory virus in circulation. My boss was also super sick in January of 2020, and they never figured out the cause. By April most of the people in my circle were well aware that “Covid” had clearly been circulating in our community for some time and that the chaos and panic was agenda driven.
If this hypothesis is correct, this would also mean that much greater percentages of the population than has been acknowledged already had acquired natural immunity.
That fiercely smart doctor who wrote heroes and villains for covid( name is a blank now) figured out everyone was exposed by jan2021 when they rolled out the jabs.
DR Reid Sheftall!!!! That's his name! You gotta love a doctor who gets thrown out of Vegas for card counting!!!! In my neck of the woods we call people like that Wicked Smaht!
I know one doctor contracted his/her state health department and shared this person's opinion that the virus had already peaked by March 2020.
I need to write this story up although this doctor told me he/she didn't want me to mention this opinion.
This doctor believes 30 percent of sick patients pre-March had Covid.
Bill, you state that maybe some of these flu tests may have been people that had Covid earlier than we were told that is was around, but it still doesn't take away the fact that Covid could have just been "rebranded flu" and that flu all but suddenly disappeared the first year Covid took over. Linking once again @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
I'm open to the possibility that Covid was simply "re-branded" flu.
I think "Covid" was probably a novel virus because more people suddenly got "sick," the symptoms were slightly different than typical flu or bugs ... and there's so much evidence that scientists WERE tinkering with viruses in labs - and then went to great lengths to cover this up.
Either scenario - a new contagious virus that's not "deadly" or no virus at all - qualifies as a massive scandal. Under both scenarios, the increase in all-cause deaths wasn't caused by a new virus but by government actions or the response to the virus. As I've written, this meets the definition of democide on a massive scale.