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Four-plus months ago I wrote an essay where I argued that the Socratic Method is now under attack.

I think this is one of my favorite columns and I appreciate that The Brownstone Institute also ran it.

Here it is for any new subscribers or those who might have missed it:

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/if-he-were-alive-today-socrates-would?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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Apr 5Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Socrates refused to give way to coercion when it came to truthsaying and willingly accepted the poisoned chalice. Would that our representatives had the same backbone.

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Apr 5·edited Apr 5Author

ARTICLE PREVIEW: One reason I asked whether the CDC had tested its own employees for antibodies is because I revisited an intriguing antibody study from the state of New York.

The largest health care system in New York did a voluntary antibody test of employees between April 19 and late June 2020. What made this study unique is the researchers asked employees to rate their suspicions that they'd already had Covid. The researchers used a scale of 1 to 10 with "1" corresponding to the healthcare employees who were certain they hadn't been infected and "10" being those who were virtually certain they had previously contracted the virus. The scores of "7 to 10" were the "High" certainty group.

(See also emailed questions beneath this post).

As it turns out, the "high" group of employees ended up testing positive for antibodies 59 percent of the time! The strongest correlation in the study was among workers who thought they'd already had Covid.

In other words, people who think they'd been sick and had Covid ... actually had had Covid .... 59 percent of the time.

This finding made me wonder how many previously "sick" CDC employees might have also had Covid in the weeks and months before "official" Covid. I also knew that a big percentage of Georgia and Atlanta residents had been sick with ILI symptoms between November 2019 and the end of February 2020.

So: The CDC could and should have also tested all 64 percent of its employees just like this NY hospital system did.

FWIW, 13.7 percent of the hospital employees already had Covid antibodies between April 19 and late June. My guess is the real percentage was probably higher and the main reason it wasn't is that some antibodies might have already faded to undetectable levels by the time the workers were tested in May or June 2020. My (educated) guess is that a significant number of employees had likely/probably been infected in November,December or January - which is five to seven months before they finally got an antibody test. So the antibodies had faded in some percentage of the respondents.

Also, a small percentage of people never develop detectable levels of antibodies. I also learned that the cut-off values on the antibody tests are important.

In another NY antibody study, which showed 14 percent prevalence by the end of March 2020, 2.3 percent of the results were "indeterminant" which was counted as a negative result. But some of those borderline results were probably people who were infected.

In short, I think the antibody studies probably under-count the number of people who were previously infected.

... I think I'm going to do a stand-alone story on those two NY antibody studies.

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I also emailed the corresponding secretary of the NY hospital antibody study some questions. For those interested, here's that email. This was an interesting and important study although I wish I knew a few more details. This will also show you how my mind is working as I pursue my "early spread" hypothesis ...

Ms. Davidson,

Hello, My name is Bill Rice, Jr. I'm a freelance journalist who is investigating the hypothesis that the novel coronavirus may have been spreading in America weeks or months before is widely acknowledged.

I read with great interest the study result where Northwell Health System employees voluntarily received antibody tests between April 20-June 23, 2020.

The key finding from this important study seems to be that 13.7 percent of study participants were positive for IgG antibodies.

I’m particularly intrigued by one unique feature of this study - namely that researchers identified positive cases based on the employees’ suspicions they may have previously had the virus.

In the study, those who had a “high” expectation they’d contracted the virus were far more likely to test positive for antibodies (59 percent). This suggests these employees must have known or suspected they’d already had these symptoms.

In my “early spread” investigation, I’m keenly interested in the question of WHEN many of these employees might have experienced these symptoms. Did everyone who later tested positive for antibodies experience these symptoms in March or late February 2020 or did some/many experience these symptoms weeks or months earlier?

I’ve come up with a long list of questions. I’d be very grateful if you could answer any of these. I’d also be happy to call and we could perhaps do a phone interview at your convenience.

Here are my main questions:

* Were survey participants who donated blood for the antibody study questioned about when they experienced Covid or Influenza Like Illness symptoms?

* Was there an increase in employee absenteeism (due to illness) in the months November 2019 through February 2020?

* Did study designers also test for the IgM antibody? Per my research, a positive result for IgM and negative result for IgG suggests this person was infected in the previous 30 days (as IgM antibodies fade to undetectable levels in approximately 30 days, according to my research).

* I did not see any IgM data in this study. This information, if available, would help me gauge what percentage of healthcare workers might have been infected at least 30 days prior to giving blood for the antibody assays.

* If this data is available, can you provide these results (breakdowns on IgM positive and IgG-negative)?

* Did researchers follow-up with survey participants to gauge how long IgG antibodies persist or are still detectable? Can you provide any updated info if this occurred?

* In the opinion of study authors, does a positive antibody result provide confirmation of previous infection?

* Did the hospital system treat any patients that you or administrators now believe might have had Covid before January 1, 2020?

* If you are now aware, did any former patients with Covid-like symptoms later test positive for antibodies?

* For example, I wrote a feature story on an Alabama man (Tim McCain) who was treated for 24 days in ICU in a Birmingham hospital. Tim was released from the hospital at the end of January and had Covid symptoms beginning in late December 2019. He (and his wife) tested positive for Covid antibodies in late April 2020. My thought is that it’s unlikely Tim McCain is the only hospital patient in America who had definite clinical markers of Covid and later tested positive for antibodies.

* I’ve done copious research on ILI cases in America and have found that ILI percentages were much higher than flu-season norms in almost every U.S. state … before “community spread” was said to have started in America (which, according to the CDC, was late February 2020).

* Did Northwell hospitals see an increase in patients complaining of ILI symptoms between November 2019 and the end of February 2020?

* Can you provide any ILI percentage numbers that might quantify the cases of people with ILI symptoms? (For example, emergency room visits with ILI symptoms, hospital admissions or the number of flu tests administered).

* From this study, did researchers find any evidence that leads them to conclude that Covid cases in health care workers or patients occurred in January 2020, December 2019, November 2019 or maybe even earlier?

* Have researchers ruled out this possibility and, if so, why or on what basis?

Thank you very much for your help.

Sincerely,

Bill Rice, Jr.

Troy, Alabama

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So why did I ask those questions about the CDC not giving antibody tests to its own employees?

Because my hypothesis/bet is that if the CDC had tested, say, half of its employees for antibodies on, say, March 1, 2020, the results would have shown that maybe 5, 10 or 14 percent of employees would have/might have tested positive.

The agency couldn't risk such a test because such a result would have scuttled the lockdowns (ordered March 15th). Why lockdown society to "prevent spread" if, say, 10 percent of the CDC's own employees had already been infected?

I keep highlighting the fact that 2.03 percent of Red Cross blood donors in WA, CA and OR already had Covid antibodies by November 2019. (While the blood was collected Dec. 13-16, those people already had antibodies two weeks earlier as it takes a week or two for antibodies to develop). If 2 percent of the population in those three states had been infected in November, how many more people would have been infected three months later? (Remember, this is a "contagious" virus).

And Georgia had much-higher levels of Influenza Like Illness activity than those three states did ... I think the virus was spreading sooner and more rapidly in the South than it was in the Northwest.

IMO there's a reason the CDC only did ONE antibody study of archived blood. There's also a reason the CDC didn't publish the results of that study until almost a year after the blood had been collected.

As I asked in my questions: How long does it actually take to test a few thousand vials of blood for antibodies? As I'll show in future articles, it doesn't take a year! (It actually takes a few days).

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1) Which Antibodies?

2) No. The first PCR tests were developed with the alleged SARS-Cov1 and couldn't possibly detect a new unidentified pathogen

3) Yes. They all went on vacation to Cabo with Ted Cruz.

4) Which "illnesses". Covid side effects are the same as cold and flu, and every other disease you get from "Long Covid", like heart attacks, myocardis and stroke. Getting run over by a bus, motorcycle accidents, gunshot wounds and shark attacks.

5) Which antibodies, which test? The HIV test looks for antibodies. Supposedly.

6) What were they looking for in the Blood? The first cases in China were allegedly from Pneumonia.

7) What would they be looking for if the alleged pathogen is "novel"?

8) About 15 minutes. Spock: We've regressed in time, 71 hours. It is now three days ago, Captain. We have three days to live over again.

9) The CDC is packed with Big Pharma executives. I don't think they are the ones "checking the blood".

10) With Covid-19 or Of "SARS Cov-2"?

11) "Possibe Cases"? The PCR and antibody tests say on the side "If you test negative twice, keep testing"... And its a -sliding scale- test. Like "almost pregnant"!

12) The Drunken Sailors? Or the regular ones??

13) Nasal vessagle tests maybe, possibly Anal swabs. You might have to ask the DARPA robot nasal swabber or IOT Interrigator Droid; But, some specific antibody based on an unknown novel pathogen. Then, no.

14) Probably because the 382 were not obeying social distancing guidelines. If you know what I mean.

15) Functional? What do you mean, what type of swab do they use? Origionally, they just did it by hand. Since all the tests are EUA, no clinical trials for safety or efficacy is required.

16) Nobody knows. That's like asking the CDC, "when was the last time you took a smoke break".

17) No. Rockefeller, NIH "Operation Lockstep" mandates "Lockdowns". See, the word "Lock" is in the name!

18) I think they were all busy counting their cash from Pfizer, Moderna BioNtech by that date. It's hard to just embezzle $7.77 Trillion and spend another $6.66 Trillion a year.

19) No. On the flipside, there is a video posted of the FDA/CDC meetings online where they state "Antibodies have no correllation to protection"

20) Survey? The AI WOPR "Whopper" told them that the more positive tests they get, the bigger their bank accounts get. It's more like basic mathematics. You know, "First Priciples" - Elon Musk

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That’s exactly why Chinese ended up calling the “pandemic” a manageable seasonal flu. (#2)

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12) Drunk sailors...always.

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Apr 5Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Some of these questions could be asked of other agencies as well, like the Alabama health department.

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I've asked them some of these questions - like how many ADPH employees have died from Covid since March 2020? My answer: "We can't provide that information ... for HIPAA reasons."

Agghh!

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Apr 5Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Some of these questions could be asked to the Dept. of Veterans Affairs who are still giving the covid DeathVax to veterans.

With an "extra dose" for veterans 65 and over.

https://news.va.gov/129555/va-offering-updated-covid-19-vaccines/#:~:text=VA%20is%20offering%20updated%20COVID,to%20get%20the%20updated%20vaccine.

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One of the things I found odd and frustrating was the absolute refusal to do any antibody testing. So…they were insisting people get vaccinated but were refusing to test to see if one had antibodies….it made no sense. Kind of like the refusal to do autopsies. It was like they were controlling the narrative by controlling access to information.

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It's the tests and investigations they should do but don't that tells us everything we need to know.

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Agree. As an attorney, I often say that the evidence of what happened lies more in what is not presented! If they really wanted to get to the bottom of things, they could. But they already know….they like the plausible deniability.

For what it’s worth, my father (who has Wegner’s) got very ill in November of 2019. The doctors at the hospital on coral said that his lungs presented like he had pneumonia but that it was not pneumonia. They proceeded, however, with treatment as if it was pneumonia. He also had blood pressure issues, etc. related to the episode. While he rallied, he passed away in May of 2020. In his subsequent decline in the spring of 2020 he was tested for Covid and the PCR test came back negative. I wonder if he had had Covid in November 2019. Given his age and history with Wegner’s which was always problematic in the spring, I was not surprised when his health once again declined. But having cared for him in November 2019…and how he presented, I would love to know if it was Covid even then.

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I wouldn't be surprised if your father had Covid in November 2019. Hospitals throughout the world must have saved tissue and blood samples they could have retroactively tested for Covid. I bet some did this and they know, but they aren't telling.

The CDC could have ordered hospitals to do such testing - another investigation that didn't happen.

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Agreed. I’ve thought of that.

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Apr 6Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Yes, sir! You nailed it. It was and is what they did not, would not and will not do that did it for me!

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Apr 5Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

That would be incredibly illuminating along with all of the unanswered letters I/we have written to people who claim to be representing us in congress.

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Apr 5Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Thanks for asking!

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That's my job. I also think more journalists need to post all the questions they ask that never get answered. That's kind of a giant tell to me about our captured allegedly "transparent" public health organizations ... and offices of "public information."

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Apr 5Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

fingers crossed

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As they say, it can't hurt to ask. Plus, before I write these stories, journalism ethics say I should at least give the "authorities" a chance to answer.

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Apr 6Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Bill, I recently listened to an interesting podcast where James Delingpole interviewed cartoonist Bob Moran.

Bob said that during the covid rollout, the paper at which he was working was going to revolt against the government.

However, someone got wind of the situation with Boris Johnson. When Johnson was questioned about why he was going so hard with the covid response, Johnson said 'I do what they tell me to do.'

The point of this anecdote is that the CDC is not in charge of anything, and probably not the military either. They do what they are told to do, and in the case of the military, enforce the orders.

I believe it's the old families that own the banks holding politicians hostage. So there are no more 'countries' anymore, just banks telling nations that they will pull their credit ratings and supply chains if they do not obey.

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Apr 6Liked by Bill Rice, Jr.

Excellent questions..............................deserving an answer to those of us that have been waiting and are not pleased with the lack of accountability in all questionable spheres surrounding the covid debacle.

I won't hold my breath but you never know. Someone may come forward and answer -- IF pounded enough. As we knew the squeaky wheel gets the grease - in this case, we want truth and accountability.

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UPDATE: it's now nine days after I submitted these questions to the media affairs department at the CDC ... Still no reply.

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Question for my Subscribers: Please respond if you received my cross-post "Update on Embalmer Clots," which I sent out at 5:06 p..m. CST Friday.

Per Substack metrics, this story has zero reads more than 12 hours after I emailed it. This has never happened before..

Also, this story "Twenty Questions for the CDC" has only 362 total reads and a "5 percent open rate" since I emailed it yesterday at 1 p.m. I've never had a story that was read by so few people (I have almost 6,000 subscribers).

I wonder what's happening.

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Brave whistleblowers are going to save the country. If anyone is tired of the truth being covered up, please contact me by email.My email is:

wjricejunior@gmail.com

I will protect your anonymity even if I get sent to prison. The whistleblowers will go down in history.

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How about did the CDC vet the original Fang Wu paper from China that declared a novel SARs-CoV-2 virus had been found? What was the control group for this paper and how could they have relied on if the tissue sample had been contaminated?

A song about the fraud of Virology. Watch THE DISH. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/new-music-video-the-dish

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