While doing research on outbreaks on Naval vessels, I also did a little more research into the outbreak on The Diamond Princess cruise ship, one of the seminal Covid narrative events.
One tidbit I’d previously missed was that a team of American health officials arrived on the ship while officials were trying to determine what to do with the passengers. Apparently, this explains why just about every person on the ship received a PCR test. The fact large percentages of passengers and crew tested positive on these tests probably explains the ramp-up in Covid fear.
Many of those who tested positive were asymptomatic and Covid death numbers are no doubt suspect (for example, several people 80 or older died weeks after they’d left the ship). Still, the news coverage - based on wide-spread PCR testing - helped cement the operative Covid fear narrative.
I reached the same conclusion from my analysis of outbreaks on three Naval vessels. It was widespread PCR testing that produced the fear and the panic - not the actual symptoms or health conditions of those on board (only 1 reported Covid death occurred among more than 7,000 crew members). I believe if PCR tests had been administered to large numbers of crew members on any Naval vessel, the results would probably have been similar.
Working in hospital and LTC in a small community, I witnessed the same. All the new protocol, the new regulations, the new daily activities and "protections" drove fear- patients, residents and employees alike. People lined up for their shot and nursing rolled them out in segments for weekend "recoveries". On Mondays we got to hear about all the wonderful side effects.
One charge nurse had adverse events right away and severe heart complications. She struggled for a year and a half with systolic & diastolic heart failure before she passed away. She was our 1 long time nurse- dependable, compassionate, loved by all our residents. Tough as a charge nurse needs to be also. Was prepping for retirement and looked forward to enjoying the new average she and her husband more recently purchased.
I have seen some horrific things, none of which were of a dire condition of covid.
Every public health official (and mainstream media investigative journalist) rejects my “early spread” hypothesis because I can’t prove early spread. But the reason I can’t “prove” this is that (almost) nobody in America could even get a PCR test until mid-March 2020. (The only people who did get them were people who had recently returned … from China.)
All I can “prove” is that a lot of people (actually tens of millions of people) were sick with Covid-like symptoms weeks and months before the first “confirmed” case in America. I’ve also shown that scores of Americans later tested positive for Covid antibodies, but these tests didn’t become widespread until late April.
While I place great weight on these later positive antibody tests, I also don’t think the antibody tests are identifying many people who were actually exposed to this virus because A) I don’t trust the companies that produced the “authorized” antibody tests and/or B) I know that antibodies fade in two or three months among many people who had a prior infection.
It went through the homeschool community October-Jan 2019/2020... one young dad had to be hospitalized due to the extreme breathing issues. Another teen who had a preexisting issue developed "long" covid. Everyone tested for flu came back negative and doctors told them it wasn't the flu. They all described it as the worst flu of their lives.... that wasn't a flu. A friend's husband's company was based in China and employees going back and forth were getting sick that fall.
The other piece of why they had to wait was because they needed to prime the fear pump. The Netflix documentary PANDEMIC was released and millions watched December 2019. That film set the precedence/ expectation of certain control measures used and how if you followed the rules you would stop the spread.
Thanks for providing yet another "early spead" anecdote. There must be millions of these. I think you nail the main point - they had to "prime the fear" to implement the programs they really wanted to implement. "Spiking Deaths" had to be the key part of this necessary fear campaign.
The deaths did finally arrive - in late March and April ... after the lockdowns and in the months when respiratory viruses historically are fading out.
The late-arriving PCR tests combined with the iatrogenic protocols gave us the spike in deaths that cemented the Great Fear Narrative.
That's interesting and he makes great points. Dr. Bhattacharya, who organized two "early" serology/antibody studies, came to believe that for every "confirmed" Covid case at the time of those antibody tests, there might have been 50 early cases that hadn't been identified or were missed. His main point is that the virus horse had long since left the barn and so there was no way any efforts to slow or stop virus spread would ever work. He's right about that.
However, I happen to think that there were 100 or 200 cases that were probably "missed" (not 50). I think the labs that identified the antibody positive cases probably missed many of likely cases (perhaps because of the cutoff values used on the AB tests). Also, I think many people who got those tests got them months after they had already been infected and their antibody levels might have faded below the "cutoff value" by the time they got these tests.
As I've written, I think I and my two children had Covid in January 2020. I actually got an antibody test in mid-May 2020. It was negative for antibodies. However, I still think I had Covid. I don't know why I tested negative. Maybe my antibodies had faded in the four months after my presumed case? Or maybe that antibody test was created to conceal likely early cases?
I do know myself and my children never got Covid after we were sick with the Covid symptoms.
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Well, my hubby and I were two of those uncounted cases and there were more at Kaiser Hospital Fresno. Dec. 26,2019 I had severe gastric symptoms affecting the entirety of my alimentary canal. I ended up with a burst appendix and went to the hospital, where I had a 14 hour wait in queue due to ARDS cases in the ER. I passed out, then they took me in. While they were seeing me, they FUMIGATED the ER. Fast forward to a few days later, my husband and I presented with Covid symptoms, including loss of smell, wild fluctuations in BP and Oxymeter readings down to the low 80's, no fever no cough, but we immediately treated with Zpack, prednisone, aspirin, quinine, vitamin C, you know, the antiviral protocol for elderly folks with already severe comorbid conditions. Hubby came into Covid with COPD, post Widomaker LADA which took away half his heart, two stents, and hypertension. I came in with autoimmune disease. Yet our symptoms were held at bay to what seemed to be a three day minor cold with later long fuse sequelae. Months later, Hubby had to go on oxygen, he developed AFIB, I developed kidney failure, our hair fell out and grew back different texture and colour, indicating DNA damages. SO retrospectively, our pulmonologist diagnosed Covid. Which means we caught Covid at Kaiser Hospital while they were treating ARDS patients. IN fact, in the recovery room, I was asked by my surgeon if I wanted to spend the night and I said, "Hell NO" to which he responded, "Good. There are a lot of sick people here".
Anyhow if you are interested, we are better now, the kidney failure went away, the AFIB is under control, the sense of smell came back, we lost a lot of weight which we needed, and feel like new people, which we probably are due to autophagy cause by massive cell die off. Yay. Plus we never caught Covid again. We can be pretty sure we caught it at Kaiser, because we live in the boonies and rarely interface with other human beings.
Just to reaffirm, we account for two more cases, and however many they had in Kaiser taking up all the ER cubicles and ICU beds. Literally I was one of about five people in the waiting room for 14 hours and none of us were served until I went unconscious on the floor. Having a burst appendix for 14 hours was insufficient to cut through the triage for a few ARDS cases. You could hear them moaning and hacking and begging for their moms, it was awful. I was barely conscious, but I recall telling my hubby not to stay with me, but he wouldn't listen. Bless him, I don't know what I'd do without him.
Now, in the case of Bhattacharya, his estimates of mortality based on his serology tests came out to like 0.17%. And I went to the Santa Clara Covid data site, and ran the numbers, and after three years his estimate was 100% accurate, with or without adjusting for age. SO while it is PROBABLE that his original serology MISSED CASES because his corhort was healthy volunteers, it all evened out in the end. The bulk of cases and mortality should be on the front end of the outbreak, as the weak and sickly are hit hardest.
I think the sewage tests were the most important indicator of the presence of SARS CoV 2 prior to the admission of an outbreak. I think they found virus MONTHS prior to when you and I caught Covid.
And I have some crazy ass tinfoil hat theories on that account. Have you been following the illegal lab story? Reedly CA officials discovered an illegal biolab owned by some Chinese National. It's scandalous. 4chan had some guy posting a year or more prior to the pandemic that on the west coast there would be Chinese biolabs producing pathogen to release onto an unsuspecting populace. Now, I'm not one to listen to the Qs or the 4Chans, I'm old school, but put in context of the illegal lab, it's smelling like dead rats. High drama. So anyhow, with so many people obviously infected in the Greater Fresno Area that I am AWARE OF, ie FOUR or MORE people with ARDS in Kaiser Hospital on the same day in Dec. 2019, it could have been a purposeful release in our area, or an orchestrated simultaneous release from labs around the world. Because honestly? It did not move like a normal virus, it seemed to be spontaneously popping up all over the place, which is as weird as it gets.
Ever the contrarian, i also think large numbers and percentages of health care workers in hospitals had already contracted this virus by the lockdown dates - thus they had natural immunity by the time the lockdowns occurred. It would have been nice if the public was aware of this possibility. It would also have been very interesting if credible antibody tests had been administered to hospital workers in, say, February 2020 - before antibodies had had time to "fade." I think widespread antibody testing was also intentionally delayed to conceal evidence of early spread.
I've read this before, but I need to read it again. It's more compelling evidence of "early spread." I've found this evidence in Spain, France, Italy, the UK, China and the USA (in at least 15 different states).
If the virus wasn't contagious, why and how did it "spread" to people in so many far-flung places?
This is great info and "early spread" testimonial which includes many specific details from your experience. I hadn't thought about this point, which is really good: "The bulk of cases and mortality should be on the front end of the outbreak, as the weak and sickly are hit hardest."
Regarding your presumed case in late December 2019, I'd note that this was when one of the big spikes in ILI happened in the vast majority of U.S. states. Late January/early February was another big spike in ILI cases.
In my articles on school closings, I pointed out that a lot more schools would have been forced to shut down if schools had been in session in late December/early January. However, these schools were closed due to the Holiday breaks.
Thank you, for speaking out about the "fumigating" of rooms and the following heart conditions.
As I was opening the department with another woman, we both were sent to ED with similar problems.
Both of our BP and pulse were affected.
Both of us sent home to rest. Now, we were under a lot of stress for quite a long time, both had some (managed) heart conditions before hand, but why this day at the same time?
I hypothesized that they must have "fumigated" just before we arrived.
At another facility I was told "you don't tell anybody anything" after one "housekeeping" agent was sent out to fumigate an area. We need people to tell these stories. Thank you, for telling yours. Please be brav- we need you all!
Well, I didn't think it was anything other than standard operating procedure if they have an ER full of ARDS patients. It could be any infectious pathogen. But in our case, our pulmonologist confirmed that it was most likely the source of our SARS CoV2 infections. I am very concerned that you were told not to speak of the fumigation. I mean, yeah, in those days it's possible that they were perhaps in a lot of denial about the spread of Covid. In fact, Jay Bhattacharya was CENSORED heavily for his research on seroprevalence in Santa Clara because it indicated two things: The virus was already entrenched in the community at the onset of the pandemic, and there was a 0.17 death rate, QUITE THE OPPOSITE OF THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE. People like my hubby and I were the poster children for who should die from infections, yet we survived with neutraceuticals, Z Pack and Prednisone which we had on hand for hubby's COPD, and hyperthermia via heating pads. They could not let people know this was already rampant with such a high survival rate. Why, about a year later, our GP DENIED we had Covid despite the pulmonologist diagnosing us. She claimed we would not have survived. And you know, we wouldn't have survived if we went to hospital with our pulse oxymeter readings in the low 80's as happened to us for weeks after being infected. They would have put us on ventilators. Anyhow, she had the GALL to insist that we take antibody tests to prove whether we were ever infected. I told her antibody tests only work during the first few months, it says so right on the package insert, and that they cannot be used to assess immunity anyhow. SHE WAS FURIOUS. Furious. She had to push that garbage gene therapy on already immune patients, and indeed we have immunity because we were exposed to that infection 12/23/19 and we have never again been sick with anything, let alone Covid. Where do they send these doctors to medical school anyhow? The Pfizer Academy of Histrionic Sales Pitches?
Just this week I offered that I was going to use tea tree oil or neoporine on a small wound (small excited cyst). Young APRN kinda snubbed her nose and said neosporin.
I went for a checkup, was told we really need to treat my BP. It was a bit more elevated after returning to work (accident, another covid story). Insisted we work to get it down.
Well, I tried the med she prescribed and my heart went crazy. My eyes swelled up, next day my face, then fibrillation feeling (yes, I know that feeling). Certainly, tachycardia. Head got wonky, headache band around my head.
After I told her I stopped it she wanted an EKG. Problem w an EKG is it's very expensive, insurance won't always pay either. Waste of time and money unless they happen to catch it in the 30 second window that they are recording. And, if it isn't recorded, it didn't happen..
We need a new system. I was feeling pretty good before I went.
Then, a couple weeks before, yes, I was given a bit if a shakedown, verbally, about receiving all the vaxx. Even after declinations signed.
In fact, they said they couldn't find my previous records so would need to repeat my lifetime vaxx. I let her know that wasn't going to happen. It was for work just a couple of weeks ago. I resigned. Medical industrial complex- self feeding. They draw you in, say all kinds of things that you must take care of right now.
I also had covid symptoms on a couple of occasions. I was the manager of a dept that nobody else could run. Somehow, I always tested negative, even when I believed I had it. It's no joke! That thick gunk in my lungs was terrible to get up and took months to finally feel free of it. I had to keep working (spreading) while those tested positive but had no symptoms, which happened quite a bit, had to be absent 14 days then retest. Later, it was 10 days. Still, enough to create a major burden on employees who had to "man the ship".
Don't get me started on those who later admitted to purposefully exposures to get time off. No kidding, it was a dastardly time. It was all the protocol that caused fear and took us down.
We need to get to the bottom of this beast. Thanks to everyone reporting.
What about finding the antibodies in the blood supply from the American Red Cross? I remember hearing or reading they'd found some in the donations from 2019?? Just wondering.
I had something very similar in maybe 2017. I stayed home to treat and felt like the worst pneumonia. Didn't want my kids/grandkids to come for fear of contagion. Thought I was gonna die, really. Was just getting ready to graduate as an older adult. Lots of steam treatments w rosemary, correcedin, fluid and rest
There's still so many unanswered questions about the virus origins. I still think one of my better contributions to the speculation projects is my observation that we should focus on all the investigations that could and should have happened (and could have easily happened) ... but didn't happen.
The fact no public health official will even investigate possible "early cases" is a giant tell to me. Getting to my "most important question" being why ... Why wouldn't they do this?
The answer must be that they know what those investigations would confirm if they did perform credible inquiries. More specifically, some officials must know these investigations would entirely nuke the authorized narrative on virus origins and spread. They must know this because some people must know when and where the virus really escaped and began to spread.
They know the authorized version is a lie and would of course not want the public to know this.
This story is already long, but it would have been even longer if I hadn't cut these paragraphs ...
As my subscribers know, my hypothesis is that a novel coronavirus had already infected tens of millions of citizens around the world by the time of the lockdowns in mid-March 2020. Furthermore, I think at least some public health officials could have known this … or at least suspected this.
Per my theory, certain officials have gone to great lengths to conceal “early spread” from the public. That is, they must have known this virus was very contagious … but at least some officials must have known that hardly anyone was dying from this virus.
If known to the public, this knowledge would have dissipated the mass fear and panic, predicates which, in turn, justified the lockdowns, the draconian Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions (NPIs) and then mandatory mRNA “vaccines.”
In other words, if known, this knowledge might have precluded the imposition of the mandates and virus-mitigation measures officials were determined to impose on the inhabitants of the planet.
Regarding the WHEN question (“When did the virus ‘escape’ and then begin to infect people?) ... I point out that for at least a year or two the “authorized narrative” answer to this question was “sometime in December 2019” (after people got infected at the Wuhan live market).
However, at some point, it became okay to push this virus spread start date back approximately a month to “November 2019.” The story that changed this narrative was a report by the WSJ (and other media organizations) that U.S. “intelligence” had confirmed that three scientists at the WIV allegedly got sick in “November” and actually, per the story, had to be hospitalized.
The story doesn’t specify when in November these scientists allegedly got sick and had to be hospitalized. This could have been November 1st or it could have been Nov. 30th.
I say let’s use the mid-point of the month and say all three got sick on or around November 15th.
Okay, if this true, how do we explain Mayor Michael Melham getting sick with the same symptoms at a conference in Atlantic City on November 19th? (FWIW, Melham also reports that “many” other people got sick at the same conference).
To me, it would seem impossible that Melham got sick from Covid four days after three scientists in Wuhan became “case zeroes” in the world.
So the new accepted narrative makes zero logical sense. Maybe those scientists did have Covid, but they definitely wouldn’t have been the first cases in the world.
Also, I think these scientists might have later been identified by name, but I’ve never seen a story saying they were later given antibody tests to help “confirm” they had a “prior infection.”
Nor have I seen any story that said even one participant at the World Military Games who became sick in late October were ever given antibody tests. If they were, the results weren’t publicized via the media.
If nothing else, public health officials should test possible “early cases” for antibodies, right? If they don’t do this, they’re not really ‘searching for the truth.”
Melham (and many other people in the world) did later test positive for antibodies.
And every public health official should know that the mayor of a NJ city with a population of 33,000 people believes he had Covid. Mayor Melham had all the symptoms and he actually ended up getting two positive antibody tests.
If nothing else, you investigate his claim with all your best virus detectives. So IMO it’s what they didn’t do that's the great red flag or "the smoking gun."
The bottom-line for me is that officials couldn't investigate credible/possible "early cases." If they did this in good faith and then "confirmed" these people really did have Covid when they think they did (in the fall or early winter of 2019), the entire official narrative blows up.
Their solution to this threat to the narrative was quite simple: Simply don't investigate these possible early cases. Don't investigate that which you don't want to "confirm." This has always been their m.o. Also, they are not going to change this and suddenly start investigating things that might debunk the key narratives.
So, for example, there's not going to be any belated effort to seriously investigate possible vaccine injuries and deaths.
We knew - or should have known - by April 2020 that no real Covid investigations were ever going to occur.
This article really argues that officials covered up evidence of early spread - for reasons that made sense to these officials. A fair number of Covid writers might now agree with me that early spread happened. However, I might be the only writer who says, "yes, this happened" but also "this is HOW this happened ..."
I still think the link below is one of my more important and original articles. In this piece, I try to list all the ways officials achieved this important goal. I came up with more than 25 tactics that I believe have been employed to advance the disinformation that "late spread" is what happened in America.
For those interested in my hypothesis, this is how I think officials concealed evidence of early spread from the public.
My “early spread” hypothesis might be wrong, but, for now, I’m very confident that many millions of people in the world had been infected by this virus by the date of the lockdowns (mid-March 2020).
If one believes large numbers of people began to be infected in, say, November 2019, we can add four months of “missed cases” to the Covid tally.
Serious researchers should look closely at excess deaths spanning from mid-to-late November 2019 all the way to mid-March. (On average, it takes 21 days for someone infected with Covid to die from this virus, per the official storyline).
If large numbers of people started to contract this virus on November 1st, 2019, this means a spike in excess deaths should have started showing up around November 21, 2019.
However, this spike in excess deaths didn’t show up until ... late March 2020.
My take-away from this thought exercise is that Covid was NOT killing hardly anyone who became infected between November 1st and late February.
That would mean the Infection or Case Fatality Rate for this novel coronavirus would be miniscule.
If my early spread hypothesis is correct, this would also mean we know that Covid wasn’t killing enough people for anyone to notice.
What we also do know is that deaths DID spike beginning the last week in March and exploded in April 2020.
So we (should) know Covid wasn’t killing many people before the end of March. Question: why did the virus suddenly start to kill so many people in the early spring (outside the normal virus season)?
Via the process of elimination or from the observation that a spike in deaths did NOT occur in the prior three or four months, my only take-away is that it wasn’t Covid that was killing all these people.
Something else was killing a lot more people. I think numerous factors contributed to this spike in deaths, but this contagious-but-largely-benign virus wasn’t the main contributor or cause of this sudden spike in deaths.
If someone was smart enough and brave enough to prove what really caused all these “excess” deaths, they would have proven one of the great and most-tragic scandals in history.
... FWIW, I think some people have already pretty much proven this. However, these are truths most people couldn’t handle. They are certainly truths no official “truth-seeking” organization is going to seriously investigate and confirm.
What we are left with is a massive scandal and crime that’s too shocking to confirm. I guess because the truth, ever "confirmed," would implicate too many important people and organizations.
Because it was intentional. “ They” wanted it to spread. There I said it. It was in Manhattan in October 2019. I smelled a nefarious rat when Hydroxychloroquine was instantly banned with no legitimate scientific or medical reason. I don’t know who knowingly condoned this evil and who got caught up in it. But the truth is so bad, we will never learn it all.
Consider this possibility: It takes the Navy a substantial amount of time to covertly release infectious clones around the globe.
Remember all the weird pieces like SARS-CoV-2 being detected in soil in Antarctica very early.
They wanted for us to believe that R = 3.8, "MOTHER OF GOD", so there needed to be clones already present throughout the world in order for the PCR illusion to justify that. Models such as the Imperial College's were being rigged to support the story before anyone with a statistical mind could run their own analyses (which show that R hovered around 1 nearly everywhere, already, which means either the virus was already in the background, or that we were dealing with clones, but the background theory, which I believed for a moment, seems unlikely given antigen and antibody studies that have been released).
Not only did R0=1 here in NZ at the height of the Pandemic (in fact in my view it was 0) but the Director General of Health at the time, our Fauci, did not even know that 1=no pandemic (in fact anything more or less below 1.5 does but it's all bullshit anyway).
His name is Ashley Bloomfield he was trained in something medicine by the NZ Army (but obviously not in pandemics). At least two Australian Chief Health Officers (CHOs) during the bullshit pandemic were also trained by military. Brett Sutton in Victoria, who spent much of the 2000s in Afghanistan, and Andrew Robertson in Western Australia who spent time in Iraq. They are all life long military officers.
And therefore it was a military operation and our governments were warring on us.
I think you nailed it, Bill. They had to craft the narrative and ramp up the fear campaign. This was all about getting the most sacred miracle elixir into as many arms as possible. They needed to terrify people for a prolonged period of time so they would clamor for a cure: the sacred miracle elixir. By that point in time, people were primed by 24/7 Covid case/death counters perpetually plastered on their TV screens by every major "news" network. "The experts" continually said the novel elixir would put an end to the madness and make everything alright again. The people outsourced their brains/thinking to "the experts" and vaccine uptake was high. Finally, the pandemic had ended. It was a miracle, until it wasn't. The horror show was only beginning. Now those same news networks who blasted the supposed case/death counts don't say a word about the exorbitantly higher current excess deaths counts. Kind of ironic, don't you think? Nobody wants to talk about it, especially the people who were coerced into taking the sacred miracle elixir.
Some of the key elements in my opinion are the improperly used PCR tests (over cycled before the vaccine then dialed back to normal cycling after vaccines were adminsitered), the need to time the pandemic so as to keep Trump out of the way (hence time the pandemic while he was campaigning for re election) and voter fraud as they needed Trump out of the White House to complete their plan so they had to guarantee Biden won. Don't forget all the iatrogenic deaths used to boost covid death numbers as what happened to an elderly friend of my wifes! She tested negative for covide twice in the ambulance and Hospital but some doctor declared she had covid pneumonia, intubated her and killed her with remdesivir.
Now next is to piece in how the destruction of the good ship America and her economy fits into all of this as it has been happening over the past 4 years as well.
"Don't forget all the iatrogenic deaths used to boost covid death numbers as what happened to an elderly friend of my wifes!"
I didn't forget this. That's a big part of my hypothesis.
I didn't get into why this might have been pre-planned. My working theory on that question is that it has something to do with the Magic Printing Press no longer being able to print enough money to support all the outlays now and in the future. I think digital currency (which will lead ultimately to the banning of cash transactions) is a big part of their future plans and maybe the Covid response got us closer to this day?
Having "Joe Biden" as president helped the people behind the curtain as well.
Thanks for this link. I always read the Reader Comments. I found this comment germane and very interesting info:
Check Fort Detrick Lab, the center of the US biological weapon research in Maryland. It was forced to close suddenly in July 2019. Website was down, all traces gone. Apparently some older people living around the lab fell ill and died with symptoms similar to covid-19.
It was reopened later.
All over the world, the US have 336 biological weapon labs in 30 countries, with 26 labs in Ukraine alone.
My comment on this comment: There are a LOT of labs where this virus could have escaped ... not just ONE.
Mr. Unz (publisher of the Unz Report) argued in mid-2020 that the USA had released the virus, just as you suggest. At the time I dismissed his argument for lack of evidence on the pre-December cases. Now… he and you might be right.
Yes, I think Unz is the best known critic who believes the virus was intentionally released in China. My issue with his theory is that "seeding" the virus at the Wuhan Military Games wouldn't have given the virus enough time to spread around the world and infect all the people who clearly (based on antibody and symptom evidence) had Covid in November or December 2019. For China to be the first nation where cases exploded, I think the virus would have had to start spreading at least by early September - not October 19-25 at the Military Games.
Unz's timeline would still be "off" to me.
So, as everyone can tell, I keep coming back to the "When" question.
Is it possible to see when the first phase of gain of function in Wuhan was completed? Maybe the virus started to escape exactly when they finished the modification and started the second phase.
"For China to be the first nation where cases exploded, I think the virus would have had to start spreading at least by early September - not October 19-25 at the Military Games."
You can't argue "first nation" given the absence of PCR testing worldwide UNTIL China started testing.
Also, you can't assume viral spread dynamics were the same in 2019 as in 2020 and thereafter. The 2020 D614G variant proved that a single mutation could accelerate spread. Several such undetected mutations could have occurred during 2019 in what may have been an initially very slow-spreading virus, even one that spread and then died out in multiple small outbreaks, before the stably-spreading virus evolved.
I guess that's possible - different variants having different R-ought or spread numbers. I don't buy that though. I've done deep dives into hundreds of likely cases (many antibody confirmed). I'm struck by the numbers of positive people who also report that a spouse or child got sick at the same time they did. That tells me the virus was contagious in its early forms. Also, we know an unknown person infected the known person - which = "more spread." Michael Melham got sick and tested positive for antibodies and later said that "many" people got sick at the same conference - that connotes big-time spread in mid-November 2019. Tim and Brandie McCain definitely had Covid in December 2019 in rural Sylacauga, Alabama. They both tested positive for antibodies. They also told me both of their children were sick at the same time as was their roommate (who said he was as sick as he'd ever been in his life. This man never got a later antibody test). Brandie McCain's boss was also sick at the same time. Brandie said it seemed like "half" of Sylacauga was sick at the same time all the people in her household were sick. To me, these details suggest a virus that wasn't picking and choosing and only infecting a couple of people.
Also, the fact I've identified so many people in far-flung states who had antibody-positive Covid during the same time frame suggests the virus wasn't remaining in just one state or city. It seems to me it was spreading person-to-person across the country.
I don't know what nation had the first case. It might have been China. it might have been in America or even some other nation. The earliest antibody-confirmed cases I found were in France and Spain. Of course, nobody anywhere would have had a "PCR confirmed" case before January 2020.
"Michael Melham got sick and tested positive for antibodies and later said that "many" people got sick at the same conference - that connotes big-time spread in mid-November 2019. "
Mid-Nov is "late". I'm talking early spread, as is spring-summer 2019. Event 201 was announced in Aug. They knew then.
You won't see any effect on overall excess mortality in a country until ~several % of the population has been infected. At 1% infected in the US in 2019 , say, , that's 3.3 million - a lot - but because the IFR is so low, 1 per 500 or so - maybe 10,000 deaths - it won't make a dent in overall excess mortality.. 3 million or so die in a normal year in the US. You don't see the excess death signal until the exponential viral growth crosses a threshold, which happened in several countries - US, Iran, UK, Italy, etc. - at nearly the same time. Testing results are too late to tell you anything. The US-especially-is sus. They restricted testing to China-linked cases, rolled out a "flawed" CDC PCR test, etc. , covering up the true extent of the outbreak into March.
You need biobanked specimens to show where it was first, and that data has been strongly suppressed in any countries with blood on their hands. Try to find any large studies on biobanked swabs in 2020.
A few thoughts very much in line with this discussion.
1. You say that "The first important event was China officials reporting a new, unknown “pneumonia-like” virus to the World Health Organization on Dec. 31, 2019. " On that day the Taiwanese Chinese reported to the WHO that 8(?) Taiwanese businessmen that had traveled to Wuhan earlier in the month had come down with something that developed into an unknown “pneumonia-like” illness by Dec. 31st. Tedros, being a ChiCom Lapdog, didn't publicly act on it. WHO know's (pardon the bad pun) what he privately told the ChiComs on December 31st.
2. On December 31, 2019 and January 1st, 2020, the ChiComs ordered its Military and "Civilian" hospitals to destroy all Covid records and made it a crime to talked about Covid, hopelessly hiding any true "start date" information investigations.
3. Let me speculate that Taiwan WHO report may have been the starting bell for the Covid Show. Not solely because of the date, but because of the disease. The Taiwanese had declared the Wuhan illness to be that came to be called Covid a “pneumonia-like” disease. While the 1918 Spanish Flu is the dreaded boogieman deep in our collective primal Pandemic Psyches, with modern antibiotics (and possibly not poisoning patients with massive (100x) aspirin dosages), pneumonia, the true killer of the Pandemic would have been eminently treatable . If you are trying to scare the world into a global panic using a "novel" virus, the last thing they could allow was for the world to realize this is just another old folks pneumonia treatable with cheap and safe antibiotics. (FYI Denis Rancourt has done good work showing the drop off in antibiotic prescriptions).
4. Lastly, because this was all just a monstrous Asch Conformity Experiment, countries, like Mexico and France, needed time to restrict over the counter access to some drugs, like Ivermectin and HCQ, that would later prove highly effective and show the Covid Emperor had no clothes. Some of these drugs were restricted "before" Covid was public.
Great article. Given the quality of some of your other commenters, way to go.
I was a teenager in the 70s when Tylenol hit the scene. Seemed like 10,000 times a day “Safer than aspirin” was the tag line shouted in adverts. I remember back then thinking, aspirin has been around over 100 years how the hell do they know it’s safer than aspirin? Took decades before we got our answer. And, yes, I know aspirin is willow bark which is even safer. I’m just saying the context of their argument didn’t make sense.
Acetaminophen replaced phenacetin. (Remember ACP tablets?) Aspirin (and salicin - I think the salicylic acid doesn't get released until it reach the intestine) suppresses immunity and damages the stomach if the mucosal layer be compromised in everyone, but also has some beneficial effects. Acetaminophen and phenacetin don't cause the stomach damage (liver instead). Point of all that was, why compromise your immune system when you have an infection or got vaccinated? The medical establishment seems overly concerned about fever; usually a major problem over 104°F.
Thanks for your reply. One other thing you may want to consider.
In early January, 2020, the ChiComs, using their the poodle Tedros, kept lying that Covid was not transmittable person to person (or very poorly transmittable so no worries). The Taiwan 12/31 note to the WHO showed that person to person transmission, It directly contradicted what the WHO was saying. Then on 1/20/20, the WHO globally proclaimed the Wuhan Flu was transmittable person to person, alerting the world that a pandemic was starting. The next day, on 1/21/20, the ChiComs filed a patent for Remdesivir to treat Wuhan Flu. Filing a patent in one day is impossible, unless the whole thing was a setup. How much do you think that patent was worth?
"On February 4, the Wuhan Institute of Virology announced that it had applied for a Chinese patent on Gilead’s Remdesivir for novel coronavirus treatment in order to protect the national interests of China. The Chinese patent application was filed on January 21, and it will be filed internationally through the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT).
Thank you for creating this thought model and making the invisible part of the "pandenic" visible - the "behind the scenes" part.
I fully agree that "early spread" was happening. In late October 2019 a friend got very sick. She had to be admitted to the hospital and was diagnosed with an "aggressive form of pneumonia". She was fit, active and healthy - it came as a surprise to all of us. She recovered within a few weeks. My wife got sick in December 2019. Initially we thought it was the flu, but my wife is very detail oriented and noticed that whatever she had was not a perfect match to the traditional cold or flu symptoms. She recovered within a week.
I also fully agree that this whole "thing" was planned and created. It had to be made official away from any "natural" respiratory illness season, so it could be clearly identified as "new", "diffrent" and "dangerous".
What if you move all the puzzle pieces that you have around, to analyze the scenario in which the goal of the pandemic directors would have been to "get as many people vaxxed as possible"?
IMO, this was the main goal. New deadly virus that required extreme counter measures. Massive amounts of fear was generated through various channels to increase the pressure on everyone. Then, a miracle, the vaccine, the solution to everything. Sceptics of the vaccine were silenced, censored and cancelled. People who did not want to get vaxxed were demonized as granny killers and forced via mandates.
Even today, vaccine side effects are deliberately ignored by the government, health and pharmaceutical industry and the media. Autopsies are not done properly, no one is looking for the spike in the organs.
"You can not find what you're not looking for." ;-)
My #1 question is, why were "they" so obsessed (and still are), to get this "vaccine" into so many people?
I don't think it is about the money. Paying off so many "pandemic" actors (politicians, health organisations, doctors, media organizations, influencers, fact checkers, etc.), plus the damage of the lockdowns to the economy and the loss of productivity due to some many people dying or being unable to work is by far greater than the profits from the vaccine sales. Whoever stands behind all this has very deep pockets, deeper than anyone could imagine.
Thanks for the great comment, KD. It looks like we are on the same page. I like your analogy of scrambling the puzzle pieces and then re-thinking everything from the perspective that the main goal was getting everyone vaccinated with this new vaccine.
Yes, the next question for Bill might be to ask if it was known that the injections would harm people. If yes, who knew and why did they want to inject everyone? Nobody in power acts in a way that is consistent with a genuine or innocent motive. That's what you call a 'tell.'
It's just my Spidey Sense, but I think the CIA's involvement must have something to do with their real great worry - the magic printing press isn't going to produce enough money. They've been covering up the real state of the economy or decades and they knew they couldn't keep kicking the can down the road as they had been doing. They needed a narrative-changer - they need digital currency. They need to ban cash and be able to monitor people even more. They need to be even to more easily confiscate our money.
And - the most sinister possibility - they might think they need to kill off a lot of people without being blamed. There's too much evidence of too many depopulation leaders being in this movement to entirely dismiss this possibility.
Digital passports are coming - and really we now already have them - or many people do. They have now rolled out the first phase of their operation.
Just to add to the discussion, the CIA involvement is real. For some reason, Czech premier Babis in May 2019 was as first Czech prime minister invited to CIA headquarter for no specified reason. Together with that one year before in October 2018 there was meeting with Bill Gates in Brussels as well as with Jean-Claude Juncker - they discussed financial contribution to health services for EU and Africa. I don't think this is just an accident, and it's strange, that they would so closely brief specially our prime minister.
The server Aktuálně.cz reported that Babiš will visit the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia on Wednesday, where he will hold talks with CIA Director Gina Haspelová. "The visit is on the agenda," Babiš said when asked if he could confirm the information. "I received an invitation, I have no further comment on that," he added.
The sicker people are, due to the vaccines, the more profit to the pharmaceutical companies to “treat” the illnesses. Keeps the hospitals and doctors in profits as well.
The one piece of information I wish more of the public considered is this FACT: No public health official in America or New Jersey ever investigated the possible “early case” of Belleville, NJ mayor Michael Melham.
Melham believes he was sick from Covid around Nov. 20, 2019 at a conference in Atlantic City. He later tested positive for Covid antibodies TWO times and never had PCR Covid after he was sick in November. Also, he reports that “many” people got sick with the same symptoms at the same conference and no virus-origin detectives ever contacted any of these other possible early cases.
If our public health officials were honest and legit, they would have rushed to investigate this claim and been very curious to see if Melham and others had been infected by November … in New Jersey.
Maybe Melham didn’t have early Covid. Maybe both antibody tests were “false positives” and his symptoms were just another ILI that wasn’t Covid. Still, given that he could have been perhaps the first person in the world with Covid, it would have at least been worth looking into this possibility, right?
Actually, Melham wouldn’t have been “Case Zero” because some unknown person would have infected him and some unknown person would have infected that unknown person.
So Melham’s illness probably traced to people who had been infected in early November 2019 if not earlier. The problem with this scenario is that this would be BEFORE any Wuhan “case zero.” If “confirmed,” his case alone would have blown up the entire “settled science” origins narrative.
As it turns out, the solution to this awkward dilemma was simple: Simply don’t investigate his possible case.
Don’t investigate that which you don’t want to confirm - It’s amazing such a simple solution works every single time.
Cutting-room floor text, Part 3 ....
PCR tests on the Diamond Princess …
While doing research on outbreaks on Naval vessels, I also did a little more research into the outbreak on The Diamond Princess cruise ship, one of the seminal Covid narrative events.
One tidbit I’d previously missed was that a team of American health officials arrived on the ship while officials were trying to determine what to do with the passengers. Apparently, this explains why just about every person on the ship received a PCR test. The fact large percentages of passengers and crew tested positive on these tests probably explains the ramp-up in Covid fear.
Many of those who tested positive were asymptomatic and Covid death numbers are no doubt suspect (for example, several people 80 or older died weeks after they’d left the ship). Still, the news coverage - based on wide-spread PCR testing - helped cement the operative Covid fear narrative.
I reached the same conclusion from my analysis of outbreaks on three Naval vessels. It was widespread PCR testing that produced the fear and the panic - not the actual symptoms or health conditions of those on board (only 1 reported Covid death occurred among more than 7,000 crew members). I believe if PCR tests had been administered to large numbers of crew members on any Naval vessel, the results would probably have been similar.
Working in hospital and LTC in a small community, I witnessed the same. All the new protocol, the new regulations, the new daily activities and "protections" drove fear- patients, residents and employees alike. People lined up for their shot and nursing rolled them out in segments for weekend "recoveries". On Mondays we got to hear about all the wonderful side effects.
One charge nurse had adverse events right away and severe heart complications. She struggled for a year and a half with systolic & diastolic heart failure before she passed away. She was our 1 long time nurse- dependable, compassionate, loved by all our residents. Tough as a charge nurse needs to be also. Was prepping for retirement and looked forward to enjoying the new average she and her husband more recently purchased.
I have seen some horrific things, none of which were of a dire condition of covid.
Every public health official (and mainstream media investigative journalist) rejects my “early spread” hypothesis because I can’t prove early spread. But the reason I can’t “prove” this is that (almost) nobody in America could even get a PCR test until mid-March 2020. (The only people who did get them were people who had recently returned … from China.)
All I can “prove” is that a lot of people (actually tens of millions of people) were sick with Covid-like symptoms weeks and months before the first “confirmed” case in America. I’ve also shown that scores of Americans later tested positive for Covid antibodies, but these tests didn’t become widespread until late April.
While I place great weight on these later positive antibody tests, I also don’t think the antibody tests are identifying many people who were actually exposed to this virus because A) I don’t trust the companies that produced the “authorized” antibody tests and/or B) I know that antibodies fade in two or three months among many people who had a prior infection.
It went through the homeschool community October-Jan 2019/2020... one young dad had to be hospitalized due to the extreme breathing issues. Another teen who had a preexisting issue developed "long" covid. Everyone tested for flu came back negative and doctors told them it wasn't the flu. They all described it as the worst flu of their lives.... that wasn't a flu. A friend's husband's company was based in China and employees going back and forth were getting sick that fall.
The other piece of why they had to wait was because they needed to prime the fear pump. The Netflix documentary PANDEMIC was released and millions watched December 2019. That film set the precedence/ expectation of certain control measures used and how if you followed the rules you would stop the spread.
Thanks for providing yet another "early spead" anecdote. There must be millions of these. I think you nail the main point - they had to "prime the fear" to implement the programs they really wanted to implement. "Spiking Deaths" had to be the key part of this necessary fear campaign.
The deaths did finally arrive - in late March and April ... after the lockdowns and in the months when respiratory viruses historically are fading out.
The late-arriving PCR tests combined with the iatrogenic protocols gave us the spike in deaths that cemented the Great Fear Narrative.
You might be interested to talk to Jay Bhattacharya:
https://www.hoover.org/research/what-happened-dr-jay-bhattacharya-19-months-covid-1
That's interesting and he makes great points. Dr. Bhattacharya, who organized two "early" serology/antibody studies, came to believe that for every "confirmed" Covid case at the time of those antibody tests, there might have been 50 early cases that hadn't been identified or were missed. His main point is that the virus horse had long since left the barn and so there was no way any efforts to slow or stop virus spread would ever work. He's right about that.
However, I happen to think that there were 100 or 200 cases that were probably "missed" (not 50). I think the labs that identified the antibody positive cases probably missed many of likely cases (perhaps because of the cutoff values used on the AB tests). Also, I think many people who got those tests got them months after they had already been infected and their antibody levels might have faded below the "cutoff value" by the time they got these tests.
As I've written, I think I and my two children had Covid in January 2020. I actually got an antibody test in mid-May 2020. It was negative for antibodies. However, I still think I had Covid. I don't know why I tested negative. Maybe my antibodies had faded in the four months after my presumed case? Or maybe that antibody test was created to conceal likely early cases?
I do know myself and my children never got Covid after we were sick with the Covid symptoms.
Well, my hubby and I were two of those uncounted cases and there were more at Kaiser Hospital Fresno. Dec. 26,2019 I had severe gastric symptoms affecting the entirety of my alimentary canal. I ended up with a burst appendix and went to the hospital, where I had a 14 hour wait in queue due to ARDS cases in the ER. I passed out, then they took me in. While they were seeing me, they FUMIGATED the ER. Fast forward to a few days later, my husband and I presented with Covid symptoms, including loss of smell, wild fluctuations in BP and Oxymeter readings down to the low 80's, no fever no cough, but we immediately treated with Zpack, prednisone, aspirin, quinine, vitamin C, you know, the antiviral protocol for elderly folks with already severe comorbid conditions. Hubby came into Covid with COPD, post Widomaker LADA which took away half his heart, two stents, and hypertension. I came in with autoimmune disease. Yet our symptoms were held at bay to what seemed to be a three day minor cold with later long fuse sequelae. Months later, Hubby had to go on oxygen, he developed AFIB, I developed kidney failure, our hair fell out and grew back different texture and colour, indicating DNA damages. SO retrospectively, our pulmonologist diagnosed Covid. Which means we caught Covid at Kaiser Hospital while they were treating ARDS patients. IN fact, in the recovery room, I was asked by my surgeon if I wanted to spend the night and I said, "Hell NO" to which he responded, "Good. There are a lot of sick people here".
Anyhow if you are interested, we are better now, the kidney failure went away, the AFIB is under control, the sense of smell came back, we lost a lot of weight which we needed, and feel like new people, which we probably are due to autophagy cause by massive cell die off. Yay. Plus we never caught Covid again. We can be pretty sure we caught it at Kaiser, because we live in the boonies and rarely interface with other human beings.
Just to reaffirm, we account for two more cases, and however many they had in Kaiser taking up all the ER cubicles and ICU beds. Literally I was one of about five people in the waiting room for 14 hours and none of us were served until I went unconscious on the floor. Having a burst appendix for 14 hours was insufficient to cut through the triage for a few ARDS cases. You could hear them moaning and hacking and begging for their moms, it was awful. I was barely conscious, but I recall telling my hubby not to stay with me, but he wouldn't listen. Bless him, I don't know what I'd do without him.
Now, in the case of Bhattacharya, his estimates of mortality based on his serology tests came out to like 0.17%. And I went to the Santa Clara Covid data site, and ran the numbers, and after three years his estimate was 100% accurate, with or without adjusting for age. SO while it is PROBABLE that his original serology MISSED CASES because his corhort was healthy volunteers, it all evened out in the end. The bulk of cases and mortality should be on the front end of the outbreak, as the weak and sickly are hit hardest.
I think the sewage tests were the most important indicator of the presence of SARS CoV 2 prior to the admission of an outbreak. I think they found virus MONTHS prior to when you and I caught Covid.
And I have some crazy ass tinfoil hat theories on that account. Have you been following the illegal lab story? Reedly CA officials discovered an illegal biolab owned by some Chinese National. It's scandalous. 4chan had some guy posting a year or more prior to the pandemic that on the west coast there would be Chinese biolabs producing pathogen to release onto an unsuspecting populace. Now, I'm not one to listen to the Qs or the 4Chans, I'm old school, but put in context of the illegal lab, it's smelling like dead rats. High drama. So anyhow, with so many people obviously infected in the Greater Fresno Area that I am AWARE OF, ie FOUR or MORE people with ARDS in Kaiser Hospital on the same day in Dec. 2019, it could have been a purposeful release in our area, or an orchestrated simultaneous release from labs around the world. Because honestly? It did not move like a normal virus, it seemed to be spontaneously popping up all over the place, which is as weird as it gets.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=illegal+lab+reedly+california+chinese&t=newext&atb=v304-1&ia=web
Ever the contrarian, i also think large numbers and percentages of health care workers in hospitals had already contracted this virus by the lockdown dates - thus they had natural immunity by the time the lockdowns occurred. It would have been nice if the public was aware of this possibility. It would also have been very interesting if credible antibody tests had been administered to hospital workers in, say, February 2020 - before antibodies had had time to "fade." I think widespread antibody testing was also intentionally delayed to conceal evidence of early spread.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.13.20129627v1
I've read this before, but I need to read it again. It's more compelling evidence of "early spread." I've found this evidence in Spain, France, Italy, the UK, China and the USA (in at least 15 different states).
If the virus wasn't contagious, why and how did it "spread" to people in so many far-flung places?
This is great info and "early spread" testimonial which includes many specific details from your experience. I hadn't thought about this point, which is really good: "The bulk of cases and mortality should be on the front end of the outbreak, as the weak and sickly are hit hardest."
Regarding your presumed case in late December 2019, I'd note that this was when one of the big spikes in ILI happened in the vast majority of U.S. states. Late January/early February was another big spike in ILI cases.
In my articles on school closings, I pointed out that a lot more schools would have been forced to shut down if schools had been in session in late December/early January. However, these schools were closed due to the Holiday breaks.
Thank you, for speaking out about the "fumigating" of rooms and the following heart conditions.
As I was opening the department with another woman, we both were sent to ED with similar problems.
Both of our BP and pulse were affected.
Both of us sent home to rest. Now, we were under a lot of stress for quite a long time, both had some (managed) heart conditions before hand, but why this day at the same time?
I hypothesized that they must have "fumigated" just before we arrived.
At another facility I was told "you don't tell anybody anything" after one "housekeeping" agent was sent out to fumigate an area. We need people to tell these stories. Thank you, for telling yours. Please be brav- we need you all!
Well, I didn't think it was anything other than standard operating procedure if they have an ER full of ARDS patients. It could be any infectious pathogen. But in our case, our pulmonologist confirmed that it was most likely the source of our SARS CoV2 infections. I am very concerned that you were told not to speak of the fumigation. I mean, yeah, in those days it's possible that they were perhaps in a lot of denial about the spread of Covid. In fact, Jay Bhattacharya was CENSORED heavily for his research on seroprevalence in Santa Clara because it indicated two things: The virus was already entrenched in the community at the onset of the pandemic, and there was a 0.17 death rate, QUITE THE OPPOSITE OF THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE. People like my hubby and I were the poster children for who should die from infections, yet we survived with neutraceuticals, Z Pack and Prednisone which we had on hand for hubby's COPD, and hyperthermia via heating pads. They could not let people know this was already rampant with such a high survival rate. Why, about a year later, our GP DENIED we had Covid despite the pulmonologist diagnosing us. She claimed we would not have survived. And you know, we wouldn't have survived if we went to hospital with our pulse oxymeter readings in the low 80's as happened to us for weeks after being infected. They would have put us on ventilators. Anyhow, she had the GALL to insist that we take antibody tests to prove whether we were ever infected. I told her antibody tests only work during the first few months, it says so right on the package insert, and that they cannot be used to assess immunity anyhow. SHE WAS FURIOUS. Furious. She had to push that garbage gene therapy on already immune patients, and indeed we have immunity because we were exposed to that infection 12/23/19 and we have never again been sick with anything, let alone Covid. Where do they send these doctors to medical school anyhow? The Pfizer Academy of Histrionic Sales Pitches?
I am with you. I have seen too much.
Remember, they go to study medicine.
Just this week I offered that I was going to use tea tree oil or neoporine on a small wound (small excited cyst). Young APRN kinda snubbed her nose and said neosporin.
I went for a checkup, was told we really need to treat my BP. It was a bit more elevated after returning to work (accident, another covid story). Insisted we work to get it down.
Well, I tried the med she prescribed and my heart went crazy. My eyes swelled up, next day my face, then fibrillation feeling (yes, I know that feeling). Certainly, tachycardia. Head got wonky, headache band around my head.
After I told her I stopped it she wanted an EKG. Problem w an EKG is it's very expensive, insurance won't always pay either. Waste of time and money unless they happen to catch it in the 30 second window that they are recording. And, if it isn't recorded, it didn't happen..
We need a new system. I was feeling pretty good before I went.
Then, a couple weeks before, yes, I was given a bit if a shakedown, verbally, about receiving all the vaxx. Even after declinations signed.
In fact, they said they couldn't find my previous records so would need to repeat my lifetime vaxx. I let her know that wasn't going to happen. It was for work just a couple of weeks ago. I resigned. Medical industrial complex- self feeding. They draw you in, say all kinds of things that you must take care of right now.
I'm out.
I think you would get a lot out of reading this Bill! https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/11/15/chinas-ccp-concealed-sars-cov-2-presence-in-china-as-far-back-as-march-2018/
I also had covid symptoms on a couple of occasions. I was the manager of a dept that nobody else could run. Somehow, I always tested negative, even when I believed I had it. It's no joke! That thick gunk in my lungs was terrible to get up and took months to finally feel free of it. I had to keep working (spreading) while those tested positive but had no symptoms, which happened quite a bit, had to be absent 14 days then retest. Later, it was 10 days. Still, enough to create a major burden on employees who had to "man the ship".
Don't get me started on those who later admitted to purposefully exposures to get time off. No kidding, it was a dastardly time. It was all the protocol that caused fear and took us down.
We need to get to the bottom of this beast. Thanks to everyone reporting.
Cannot stand JB. Limited Hangout Stamford Stooge. Old people need the jab as Covid is deadly. Yeah Right. Eff Off I say.
I wish I had heard/seen this interview ~ 🤦♀️. Thank you for posting the url!
What about finding the antibodies in the blood supply from the American Red Cross? I remember hearing or reading they'd found some in the donations from 2019?? Just wondering.
I had something very similar in maybe 2017. I stayed home to treat and felt like the worst pneumonia. Didn't want my kids/grandkids to come for fear of contagion. Thought I was gonna die, really. Was just getting ready to graduate as an older adult. Lots of steam treatments w rosemary, correcedin, fluid and rest
There's still so many unanswered questions about the virus origins. I still think one of my better contributions to the speculation projects is my observation that we should focus on all the investigations that could and should have happened (and could have easily happened) ... but didn't happen.
The fact no public health official will even investigate possible "early cases" is a giant tell to me. Getting to my "most important question" being why ... Why wouldn't they do this?
The answer must be that they know what those investigations would confirm if they did perform credible inquiries. More specifically, some officials must know these investigations would entirely nuke the authorized narrative on virus origins and spread. They must know this because some people must know when and where the virus really escaped and began to spread.
They know the authorized version is a lie and would of course not want the public to know this.
This story is already long, but it would have been even longer if I hadn't cut these paragraphs ...
As my subscribers know, my hypothesis is that a novel coronavirus had already infected tens of millions of citizens around the world by the time of the lockdowns in mid-March 2020. Furthermore, I think at least some public health officials could have known this … or at least suspected this.
Per my theory, certain officials have gone to great lengths to conceal “early spread” from the public. That is, they must have known this virus was very contagious … but at least some officials must have known that hardly anyone was dying from this virus.
If known to the public, this knowledge would have dissipated the mass fear and panic, predicates which, in turn, justified the lockdowns, the draconian Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions (NPIs) and then mandatory mRNA “vaccines.”
In other words, if known, this knowledge might have precluded the imposition of the mandates and virus-mitigation measures officials were determined to impose on the inhabitants of the planet.
Regarding the WHEN question (“When did the virus ‘escape’ and then begin to infect people?) ... I point out that for at least a year or two the “authorized narrative” answer to this question was “sometime in December 2019” (after people got infected at the Wuhan live market).
However, at some point, it became okay to push this virus spread start date back approximately a month to “November 2019.” The story that changed this narrative was a report by the WSJ (and other media organizations) that U.S. “intelligence” had confirmed that three scientists at the WIV allegedly got sick in “November” and actually, per the story, had to be hospitalized.
The story doesn’t specify when in November these scientists allegedly got sick and had to be hospitalized. This could have been November 1st or it could have been Nov. 30th.
I say let’s use the mid-point of the month and say all three got sick on or around November 15th.
Okay, if this true, how do we explain Mayor Michael Melham getting sick with the same symptoms at a conference in Atlantic City on November 19th? (FWIW, Melham also reports that “many” other people got sick at the same conference).
To me, it would seem impossible that Melham got sick from Covid four days after three scientists in Wuhan became “case zeroes” in the world.
So the new accepted narrative makes zero logical sense. Maybe those scientists did have Covid, but they definitely wouldn’t have been the first cases in the world.
Also, I think these scientists might have later been identified by name, but I’ve never seen a story saying they were later given antibody tests to help “confirm” they had a “prior infection.”
Nor have I seen any story that said even one participant at the World Military Games who became sick in late October were ever given antibody tests. If they were, the results weren’t publicized via the media.
If nothing else, public health officials should test possible “early cases” for antibodies, right? If they don’t do this, they’re not really ‘searching for the truth.”
Melham (and many other people in the world) did later test positive for antibodies.
And every public health official should know that the mayor of a NJ city with a population of 33,000 people believes he had Covid. Mayor Melham had all the symptoms and he actually ended up getting two positive antibody tests.
If nothing else, you investigate his claim with all your best virus detectives. So IMO it’s what they didn’t do that's the great red flag or "the smoking gun."
The bottom-line for me is that officials couldn't investigate credible/possible "early cases." If they did this in good faith and then "confirmed" these people really did have Covid when they think they did (in the fall or early winter of 2019), the entire official narrative blows up.
Their solution to this threat to the narrative was quite simple: Simply don't investigate these possible early cases. Don't investigate that which you don't want to "confirm." This has always been their m.o. Also, they are not going to change this and suddenly start investigating things that might debunk the key narratives.
So, for example, there's not going to be any belated effort to seriously investigate possible vaccine injuries and deaths.
We knew - or should have known - by April 2020 that no real Covid investigations were ever going to occur.
This article really argues that officials covered up evidence of early spread - for reasons that made sense to these officials. A fair number of Covid writers might now agree with me that early spread happened. However, I might be the only writer who says, "yes, this happened" but also "this is HOW this happened ..."
I still think the link below is one of my more important and original articles. In this piece, I try to list all the ways officials achieved this important goal. I came up with more than 25 tactics that I believe have been employed to advance the disinformation that "late spread" is what happened in America.
For those interested in my hypothesis, this is how I think officials concealed evidence of early spread from the public.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/theory-officials-intentionally-concealed?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
My “early spread” hypothesis might be wrong, but, for now, I’m very confident that many millions of people in the world had been infected by this virus by the date of the lockdowns (mid-March 2020).
If one believes large numbers of people began to be infected in, say, November 2019, we can add four months of “missed cases” to the Covid tally.
Serious researchers should look closely at excess deaths spanning from mid-to-late November 2019 all the way to mid-March. (On average, it takes 21 days for someone infected with Covid to die from this virus, per the official storyline).
If large numbers of people started to contract this virus on November 1st, 2019, this means a spike in excess deaths should have started showing up around November 21, 2019.
However, this spike in excess deaths didn’t show up until ... late March 2020.
My take-away from this thought exercise is that Covid was NOT killing hardly anyone who became infected between November 1st and late February.
That would mean the Infection or Case Fatality Rate for this novel coronavirus would be miniscule.
If my early spread hypothesis is correct, this would also mean we know that Covid wasn’t killing enough people for anyone to notice.
What we also do know is that deaths DID spike beginning the last week in March and exploded in April 2020.
So we (should) know Covid wasn’t killing many people before the end of March. Question: why did the virus suddenly start to kill so many people in the early spring (outside the normal virus season)?
Via the process of elimination or from the observation that a spike in deaths did NOT occur in the prior three or four months, my only take-away is that it wasn’t Covid that was killing all these people.
Something else was killing a lot more people. I think numerous factors contributed to this spike in deaths, but this contagious-but-largely-benign virus wasn’t the main contributor or cause of this sudden spike in deaths.
If someone was smart enough and brave enough to prove what really caused all these “excess” deaths, they would have proven one of the great and most-tragic scandals in history.
... FWIW, I think some people have already pretty much proven this. However, these are truths most people couldn’t handle. They are certainly truths no official “truth-seeking” organization is going to seriously investigate and confirm.
What we are left with is a massive scandal and crime that’s too shocking to confirm. I guess because the truth, ever "confirmed," would implicate too many important people and organizations.
Because it was intentional. “ They” wanted it to spread. There I said it. It was in Manhattan in October 2019. I smelled a nefarious rat when Hydroxychloroquine was instantly banned with no legitimate scientific or medical reason. I don’t know who knowingly condoned this evil and who got caught up in it. But the truth is so bad, we will never learn it all.
As usual, you nail it. The "truth is so bad, we can never learn it."
That's what I've thought from April 2020, when I first started doing "early spread" research and reporting.
Darn right it was intentional. The deepstate despises us all and took great joy in destroying our freedoms, and they're still at it.
You're moving in the right direction.
Consider this possibility: It takes the Navy a substantial amount of time to covertly release infectious clones around the globe.
Remember all the weird pieces like SARS-CoV-2 being detected in soil in Antarctica very early.
They wanted for us to believe that R = 3.8, "MOTHER OF GOD", so there needed to be clones already present throughout the world in order for the PCR illusion to justify that. Models such as the Imperial College's were being rigged to support the story before anyone with a statistical mind could run their own analyses (which show that R hovered around 1 nearly everywhere, already, which means either the virus was already in the background, or that we were dealing with clones, but the background theory, which I believed for a moment, seems unlikely given antigen and antibody studies that have been released).
Not only did R0=1 here in NZ at the height of the Pandemic (in fact in my view it was 0) but the Director General of Health at the time, our Fauci, did not even know that 1=no pandemic (in fact anything more or less below 1.5 does but it's all bullshit anyway).
His name is Ashley Bloomfield he was trained in something medicine by the NZ Army (but obviously not in pandemics). At least two Australian Chief Health Officers (CHOs) during the bullshit pandemic were also trained by military. Brett Sutton in Victoria, who spent much of the 2000s in Afghanistan, and Andrew Robertson in Western Australia who spent time in Iraq. They are all life long military officers.
And therefore it was a military operation and our governments were warring on us.
Thanks for info in the military connections.
Robertson's is public. The other two are trying to hide it.
https://plebeianresistance.substack.com/p/2nd-lieutenant-ashley-robin-bloomfield
Virus? In Silico?
Yer not a computer or a cell phone. Just stop it, y'all!
Those are the only viruses that I know of.
YES!!
I think you nailed it, Bill. They had to craft the narrative and ramp up the fear campaign. This was all about getting the most sacred miracle elixir into as many arms as possible. They needed to terrify people for a prolonged period of time so they would clamor for a cure: the sacred miracle elixir. By that point in time, people were primed by 24/7 Covid case/death counters perpetually plastered on their TV screens by every major "news" network. "The experts" continually said the novel elixir would put an end to the madness and make everything alright again. The people outsourced their brains/thinking to "the experts" and vaccine uptake was high. Finally, the pandemic had ended. It was a miracle, until it wasn't. The horror show was only beginning. Now those same news networks who blasted the supposed case/death counts don't say a word about the exorbitantly higher current excess deaths counts. Kind of ironic, don't you think? Nobody wants to talk about it, especially the people who were coerced into taking the sacred miracle elixir.
Some of the key elements in my opinion are the improperly used PCR tests (over cycled before the vaccine then dialed back to normal cycling after vaccines were adminsitered), the need to time the pandemic so as to keep Trump out of the way (hence time the pandemic while he was campaigning for re election) and voter fraud as they needed Trump out of the White House to complete their plan so they had to guarantee Biden won. Don't forget all the iatrogenic deaths used to boost covid death numbers as what happened to an elderly friend of my wifes! She tested negative for covide twice in the ambulance and Hospital but some doctor declared she had covid pneumonia, intubated her and killed her with remdesivir.
Now next is to piece in how the destruction of the good ship America and her economy fits into all of this as it has been happening over the past 4 years as well.
Thanks, Fred.
"Don't forget all the iatrogenic deaths used to boost covid death numbers as what happened to an elderly friend of my wifes!"
I didn't forget this. That's a big part of my hypothesis.
I didn't get into why this might have been pre-planned. My working theory on that question is that it has something to do with the Magic Printing Press no longer being able to print enough money to support all the outlays now and in the future. I think digital currency (which will lead ultimately to the banning of cash transactions) is a big part of their future plans and maybe the Covid response got us closer to this day?
Having "Joe Biden" as president helped the people behind the curtain as well.
Bill, I can re submit my Uncle Jimmy story to you if you want more iatrogenic anecdotal....
Please do. My email is wjricejunior@gmail.com
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Daily Mail article about Fauci's 2018 bat experiments at NIH's Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Montana:
Anthony Fauci-run lab in MONTANA experimented with coronavirus strain shipped in from Wuhan a year BEFORE Covid pandemic began
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12693441/fauci-nih-infected-bats-camp-david-coronavirus.html
Thanks for this link. I always read the Reader Comments. I found this comment germane and very interesting info:
Check Fort Detrick Lab, the center of the US biological weapon research in Maryland. It was forced to close suddenly in July 2019. Website was down, all traces gone. Apparently some older people living around the lab fell ill and died with symptoms similar to covid-19.
It was reopened later.
All over the world, the US have 336 biological weapon labs in 30 countries, with 26 labs in Ukraine alone.
My comment on this comment: There are a LOT of labs where this virus could have escaped ... not just ONE.
Exactly! And it looks like Tony might have had more skin in the game than we realized, giving him greater incentive to divert attention to Wuhan.
Mr. Unz (publisher of the Unz Report) argued in mid-2020 that the USA had released the virus, just as you suggest. At the time I dismissed his argument for lack of evidence on the pre-December cases. Now… he and you might be right.
Yes, I think Unz is the best known critic who believes the virus was intentionally released in China. My issue with his theory is that "seeding" the virus at the Wuhan Military Games wouldn't have given the virus enough time to spread around the world and infect all the people who clearly (based on antibody and symptom evidence) had Covid in November or December 2019. For China to be the first nation where cases exploded, I think the virus would have had to start spreading at least by early September - not October 19-25 at the Military Games.
Unz's timeline would still be "off" to me.
So, as everyone can tell, I keep coming back to the "When" question.
Is it possible to see when the first phase of gain of function in Wuhan was completed? Maybe the virus started to escape exactly when they finished the modification and started the second phase.
"For China to be the first nation where cases exploded, I think the virus would have had to start spreading at least by early September - not October 19-25 at the Military Games."
You can't argue "first nation" given the absence of PCR testing worldwide UNTIL China started testing.
Also, you can't assume viral spread dynamics were the same in 2019 as in 2020 and thereafter. The 2020 D614G variant proved that a single mutation could accelerate spread. Several such undetected mutations could have occurred during 2019 in what may have been an initially very slow-spreading virus, even one that spread and then died out in multiple small outbreaks, before the stably-spreading virus evolved.
I guess that's possible - different variants having different R-ought or spread numbers. I don't buy that though. I've done deep dives into hundreds of likely cases (many antibody confirmed). I'm struck by the numbers of positive people who also report that a spouse or child got sick at the same time they did. That tells me the virus was contagious in its early forms. Also, we know an unknown person infected the known person - which = "more spread." Michael Melham got sick and tested positive for antibodies and later said that "many" people got sick at the same conference - that connotes big-time spread in mid-November 2019. Tim and Brandie McCain definitely had Covid in December 2019 in rural Sylacauga, Alabama. They both tested positive for antibodies. They also told me both of their children were sick at the same time as was their roommate (who said he was as sick as he'd ever been in his life. This man never got a later antibody test). Brandie McCain's boss was also sick at the same time. Brandie said it seemed like "half" of Sylacauga was sick at the same time all the people in her household were sick. To me, these details suggest a virus that wasn't picking and choosing and only infecting a couple of people.
Also, the fact I've identified so many people in far-flung states who had antibody-positive Covid during the same time frame suggests the virus wasn't remaining in just one state or city. It seems to me it was spreading person-to-person across the country.
I don't know what nation had the first case. It might have been China. it might have been in America or even some other nation. The earliest antibody-confirmed cases I found were in France and Spain. Of course, nobody anywhere would have had a "PCR confirmed" case before January 2020.
"Michael Melham got sick and tested positive for antibodies and later said that "many" people got sick at the same conference - that connotes big-time spread in mid-November 2019. "
Mid-Nov is "late". I'm talking early spread, as is spring-summer 2019. Event 201 was announced in Aug. They knew then.
You won't see any effect on overall excess mortality in a country until ~several % of the population has been infected. At 1% infected in the US in 2019 , say, , that's 3.3 million - a lot - but because the IFR is so low, 1 per 500 or so - maybe 10,000 deaths - it won't make a dent in overall excess mortality.. 3 million or so die in a normal year in the US. You don't see the excess death signal until the exponential viral growth crosses a threshold, which happened in several countries - US, Iran, UK, Italy, etc. - at nearly the same time. Testing results are too late to tell you anything. The US-especially-is sus. They restricted testing to China-linked cases, rolled out a "flawed" CDC PCR test, etc. , covering up the true extent of the outbreak into March.
You need biobanked specimens to show where it was first, and that data has been strongly suppressed in any countries with blood on their hands. Try to find any large studies on biobanked swabs in 2020.
Do you have link to when the Event 201 was announced?
https://web.archive.org/web/20230502172643/https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/2019/johns-hopkins-center-for-health-security-to-host-event-201-a-global-pandemic-exercise-0
Perhaps they had to wait until Kary Mullis died in order to use his test since he explicitly stated the PCR cannot diagnose anything.
When did he die?
Kary Mullis died August 7, 2019.
Mullis was a free thinker. A loose cannon. A brilliant mind. He posed too large a threat. Had to be eliminated
Very good point.
A few thoughts very much in line with this discussion.
1. You say that "The first important event was China officials reporting a new, unknown “pneumonia-like” virus to the World Health Organization on Dec. 31, 2019. " On that day the Taiwanese Chinese reported to the WHO that 8(?) Taiwanese businessmen that had traveled to Wuhan earlier in the month had come down with something that developed into an unknown “pneumonia-like” illness by Dec. 31st. Tedros, being a ChiCom Lapdog, didn't publicly act on it. WHO know's (pardon the bad pun) what he privately told the ChiComs on December 31st.
2. On December 31, 2019 and January 1st, 2020, the ChiComs ordered its Military and "Civilian" hospitals to destroy all Covid records and made it a crime to talked about Covid, hopelessly hiding any true "start date" information investigations.
3. Let me speculate that Taiwan WHO report may have been the starting bell for the Covid Show. Not solely because of the date, but because of the disease. The Taiwanese had declared the Wuhan illness to be that came to be called Covid a “pneumonia-like” disease. While the 1918 Spanish Flu is the dreaded boogieman deep in our collective primal Pandemic Psyches, with modern antibiotics (and possibly not poisoning patients with massive (100x) aspirin dosages), pneumonia, the true killer of the Pandemic would have been eminently treatable . If you are trying to scare the world into a global panic using a "novel" virus, the last thing they could allow was for the world to realize this is just another old folks pneumonia treatable with cheap and safe antibiotics. (FYI Denis Rancourt has done good work showing the drop off in antibiotic prescriptions).
4. Lastly, because this was all just a monstrous Asch Conformity Experiment, countries, like Mexico and France, needed time to restrict over the counter access to some drugs, like Ivermectin and HCQ, that would later prove highly effective and show the Covid Emperor had no clothes. Some of these drugs were restricted "before" Covid was public.
Great article. Given the quality of some of your other commenters, way to go.
They use Tylenol rather than Aspirin now. It suppresses the immune system of those on whom it works.
I was a teenager in the 70s when Tylenol hit the scene. Seemed like 10,000 times a day “Safer than aspirin” was the tag line shouted in adverts. I remember back then thinking, aspirin has been around over 100 years how the hell do they know it’s safer than aspirin? Took decades before we got our answer. And, yes, I know aspirin is willow bark which is even safer. I’m just saying the context of their argument didn’t make sense.
Acetaminophen replaced phenacetin. (Remember ACP tablets?) Aspirin (and salicin - I think the salicylic acid doesn't get released until it reach the intestine) suppresses immunity and damages the stomach if the mucosal layer be compromised in everyone, but also has some beneficial effects. Acetaminophen and phenacetin don't cause the stomach damage (liver instead). Point of all that was, why compromise your immune system when you have an infection or got vaccinated? The medical establishment seems overly concerned about fever; usually a major problem over 104°F.
Thanks, Vic. I didn't know this info about the Taiwan "pneumonia" cases, which could indeed be very significant info to this speculation exercise.
Thanks for your reply. One other thing you may want to consider.
In early January, 2020, the ChiComs, using their the poodle Tedros, kept lying that Covid was not transmittable person to person (or very poorly transmittable so no worries). The Taiwan 12/31 note to the WHO showed that person to person transmission, It directly contradicted what the WHO was saying. Then on 1/20/20, the WHO globally proclaimed the Wuhan Flu was transmittable person to person, alerting the world that a pandemic was starting. The next day, on 1/21/20, the ChiComs filed a patent for Remdesivir to treat Wuhan Flu. Filing a patent in one day is impossible, unless the whole thing was a setup. How much do you think that patent was worth?
"On February 4, the Wuhan Institute of Virology announced that it had applied for a Chinese patent on Gilead’s Remdesivir for novel coronavirus treatment in order to protect the national interests of China. The Chinese patent application was filed on January 21, and it will be filed internationally through the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT).
https://www.inquartik.com/blog/case-china-coronavirus-patents-gilead-portfolio/ "
Wow. Great info. Thanks for sharing and educating me and my readers.
Excellent article! Thank you!
Thank you for creating this thought model and making the invisible part of the "pandenic" visible - the "behind the scenes" part.
I fully agree that "early spread" was happening. In late October 2019 a friend got very sick. She had to be admitted to the hospital and was diagnosed with an "aggressive form of pneumonia". She was fit, active and healthy - it came as a surprise to all of us. She recovered within a few weeks. My wife got sick in December 2019. Initially we thought it was the flu, but my wife is very detail oriented and noticed that whatever she had was not a perfect match to the traditional cold or flu symptoms. She recovered within a week.
I also fully agree that this whole "thing" was planned and created. It had to be made official away from any "natural" respiratory illness season, so it could be clearly identified as "new", "diffrent" and "dangerous".
What if you move all the puzzle pieces that you have around, to analyze the scenario in which the goal of the pandemic directors would have been to "get as many people vaxxed as possible"?
IMO, this was the main goal. New deadly virus that required extreme counter measures. Massive amounts of fear was generated through various channels to increase the pressure on everyone. Then, a miracle, the vaccine, the solution to everything. Sceptics of the vaccine were silenced, censored and cancelled. People who did not want to get vaxxed were demonized as granny killers and forced via mandates.
Even today, vaccine side effects are deliberately ignored by the government, health and pharmaceutical industry and the media. Autopsies are not done properly, no one is looking for the spike in the organs.
"You can not find what you're not looking for." ;-)
My #1 question is, why were "they" so obsessed (and still are), to get this "vaccine" into so many people?
I don't think it is about the money. Paying off so many "pandemic" actors (politicians, health organisations, doctors, media organizations, influencers, fact checkers, etc.), plus the damage of the lockdowns to the economy and the loss of productivity due to some many people dying or being unable to work is by far greater than the profits from the vaccine sales. Whoever stands behind all this has very deep pockets, deeper than anyone could imagine.
Thanks for the great comment, KD. It looks like we are on the same page. I like your analogy of scrambling the puzzle pieces and then re-thinking everything from the perspective that the main goal was getting everyone vaccinated with this new vaccine.
➡️ My #1 question is, why were "they" so obsessed (and still are), to get this "vaccine" into so many people? ⬅️
Precisely! THIS is the question that has been—and still is—the biggest puzzle for me. Is it the element of control or an ingredient?
Yes, the next question for Bill might be to ask if it was known that the injections would harm people. If yes, who knew and why did they want to inject everyone? Nobody in power acts in a way that is consistent with a genuine or innocent motive. That's what you call a 'tell.'
Oh they knew. That’s why they tried to hide the data for 75 years or whatever it was, but the judge overruled them. https://drchrisflowersmd.substack.com/p/the-fda-knew-that-the-product-they?publication_id=1314522&post_id=137730461&isFreemail=false&r=jhq3f
Good next question.
It's just my Spidey Sense, but I think the CIA's involvement must have something to do with their real great worry - the magic printing press isn't going to produce enough money. They've been covering up the real state of the economy or decades and they knew they couldn't keep kicking the can down the road as they had been doing. They needed a narrative-changer - they need digital currency. They need to ban cash and be able to monitor people even more. They need to be even to more easily confiscate our money.
And - the most sinister possibility - they might think they need to kill off a lot of people without being blamed. There's too much evidence of too many depopulation leaders being in this movement to entirely dismiss this possibility.
Digital passports are coming - and really we now already have them - or many people do. They have now rolled out the first phase of their operation.
Just to add to the discussion, the CIA involvement is real. For some reason, Czech premier Babis in May 2019 was as first Czech prime minister invited to CIA headquarter for no specified reason. Together with that one year before in October 2018 there was meeting with Bill Gates in Brussels as well as with Jean-Claude Juncker - they discussed financial contribution to health services for EU and Africa. I don't think this is just an accident, and it's strange, that they would so closely brief specially our prime minister.
The server Aktuálně.cz reported that Babiš will visit the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia on Wednesday, where he will hold talks with CIA Director Gina Haspelová. "The visit is on the agenda," Babiš said when asked if he could confirm the information. "I received an invitation, I have no further comment on that," he added.
https://www.lidovky.cz/domov/babis-pred-odletem-do-usa-rekl-ze-navstivi-centralu-cia-chce-mluvit-o-terorismu.A190305_130139_ln_domov_mpr
https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-svet/andrej-babis-bill-gates-microsoft-brusel-syrie-pomoc_1810181108_och
Yep. They denied immunity of the recovered, and pressured them to get Covid vaccines for "stronger" immunity.
They try to do the depopulation agenda I think...
The sicker people are, due to the vaccines, the more profit to the pharmaceutical companies to “treat” the illnesses. Keeps the hospitals and doctors in profits as well.
The one piece of information I wish more of the public considered is this FACT: No public health official in America or New Jersey ever investigated the possible “early case” of Belleville, NJ mayor Michael Melham.
Melham believes he was sick from Covid around Nov. 20, 2019 at a conference in Atlantic City. He later tested positive for Covid antibodies TWO times and never had PCR Covid after he was sick in November. Also, he reports that “many” people got sick with the same symptoms at the same conference and no virus-origin detectives ever contacted any of these other possible early cases.
If our public health officials were honest and legit, they would have rushed to investigate this claim and been very curious to see if Melham and others had been infected by November … in New Jersey.
Maybe Melham didn’t have early Covid. Maybe both antibody tests were “false positives” and his symptoms were just another ILI that wasn’t Covid. Still, given that he could have been perhaps the first person in the world with Covid, it would have at least been worth looking into this possibility, right?
Actually, Melham wouldn’t have been “Case Zero” because some unknown person would have infected him and some unknown person would have infected that unknown person.
So Melham’s illness probably traced to people who had been infected in early November 2019 if not earlier. The problem with this scenario is that this would be BEFORE any Wuhan “case zero.” If “confirmed,” his case alone would have blown up the entire “settled science” origins narrative.
As it turns out, the solution to this awkward dilemma was simple: Simply don’t investigate his possible case.
Don’t investigate that which you don’t want to confirm - It’s amazing such a simple solution works every single time.