For 4 years, I’ve saved reader testimonials of people who think they had Covid before March 2020. IMO, this anecdotal evidence provides compelling evidence of early spread. I hope readers skim this.
I reference my earlier article on 104 Americans who contacted me after Citizen Free Press picked up on of my early spread stories. From Substack metrics, I know that story was read by approximately 20,000 people. So 1-in-192 people who read the article made the effort to contact me and say they think they had early Covid. (I figure more people must also think this, they just didn't bother sending me an email with their anecdote). Also, from that article, 8 of these readers told me they had later tested positive for antibodies - People from about 8 different states. That made me wonder how many people would have contacted me and told me they had "antibody evidence" or early Covid if this article had been read by, say, 250 million adult Americans.
Someone can do the math - and the extrapolations. My conclusion is there's a very large number of Americans who had Covid symptoms before March 1, 2020, people who also later got positive antibody tests. The thing is nobody in America knows how many Americans "tested positive for antibodies" and also had Covid symptoms before the lockdowns. This information is probably known by public health officials and, I believe, has been intentionally concealed from the public.
IMO this information was concealed to protect the false narrative that this is/was a "deadly virus." Also, to protect the official narrative that this virus didn't begin to "spread" in communities across America until late February 2020 (which is what CDC officials said in a May 29, 2020 press conference). That pronouncement, in my opinion, was a baldfaced lie. These officials KNEW there was copious evidence of wide spread going back to at least early November 2019.
You've probably got this data point somewhere...but just in case
September 2019 -to March 2020 lung cancer screening in Italy, showed retrospectively that some had antibodies to SARS-CoV-2.. could have been as early as Sept 2019 that the virus circulated in Italy.
A reader who used to live in Atlanta just emailed me and said he made a post on social media 4 years ago about all the people who were sick in this metro city. I replied by pointing out that Atlanta is home to. ... The CDC!
The CDC must have had hundreds and hundreds of employees who were sick from an ILI between November 2019 and March 1, 2020. That is, the CDC could have tested the blood of its own employees for Covid antibodies in late February 2020. (They didn't need "archived" Red Cross blood).
They didn't do that though. IMO this is another tell that they are covering up evidence of early spread.
I didn't include myself (and my daughter and son), but we all three had definite Covid symptoms in January 2020 and never got Covid afterwards. We all three tested negative for flu. Like my fellow correspondents, I can report that there were definitive symptoms that were different than previous bouts of flu I'd endured.
My sister was also very sick in December 2019. She had difficulty breathing (she was in her 40s and very fit). She worked in the infamous Kirkland, WA nursing home, where the supposed first Covid cases were reported. She recovered fine and continued to work with people during the madness of 2020.
I figured when I wrote this I'd get even more "early case" possibilities. Thanks for sharing. I'll keep saving these! I might publish "Part 3" at some point in the future.
Note how many of these citizen correspondents give their real names. Several say they later tested positive for antibodies. This figure adds to my growing list of Americans who have stated they had Covid symptoms in 2019 and then got a positive antibody test (several got more than one positive antibody result). These people usually got their antibody tests in late April or early May 2020.
The important fact is that all of these people could have been interviewed by public health officials investigating "early spread" or "virus origins." None of them were (with the exception of two people in Washington state, who were questioned by state public health officials - but not the CDC).
If officials didn't trust these antibody results, they could have tested them again with an antibody assay of their choosing. In fact, one would think anyone who tested positive would be tested multiple times to see how long detectable levels of antibodies last.
I continue to contend that the greatest proof of "early spread" is all the investigations that should have taken place, but did not. Officials never investigate that which they do not want to "confirm."
IMO, this SHOULD be a giant tell about the trust-worthiness of our public health agencies. Also, the mainstream media won't investigate these claims either - which tells me they have "gotten the memo" to drop this area of investigation.
And I KNOW why public health officials won't investigate these possible "early cases." Because if these were honest inquiries they would probably have to confirm X number of people did have "early Covid" in November or December 2019. Furthermore, they would have to confirm early cases in at least 20 U.S. states (and several other countries). If they did this, everyone would know that this virus didn't just fall out of the sky and infect a few select people. The common-sense conclusion would be that these people were infected via "community spread." That is, the virus was spreading - and infecting - person after person across the entire globe - in late 2019. (These people had not recently been to China. They got the virus from their neighbors).
If you prove this, you are left with no other conclusion other than "many millions of people must have been infected" by this virus (which actually is very contagious). And if many millions of people had been infected - and these people hadn't later died - our "experts" couldn't sell the all-important narrative that this was an unusually "deadly" virus.
Early spread would detonate the entire false narrative that established the justification for all the government mandated responses that followed. This would kill any and all credibility these trusted public health officials and agencies have with the public.
... So I hope a few people get the motive for "concealing evidence of early spread."
Back in the fall of 2019 I worked at the WinCo in Union Gap, WA. There were so many employees that ended up sick with what initially seemed like an awful cold. It was early November when I came down with "it" and ended up in urgent care struggling to breath. I tested negative for flu and pneumonia but the doc said there were no sounds of air exchange in the left lung at all. Prescribed Prednisone and went home just as miserable as when I'd arrived. As I was a new employee I managed to miss only three days of work but drug myself to work with almost no energy and coughing this horrendous, unproductive, dry cough for 6 weeks. I was able to pull this off probably due to working the graveyard shift and having almost no contact with customers. I very much believe you are on to something regarding this being here and infecting so many way before "it" was a thing.
That's another powerful anecdote. Thank you, Cindy. There was lots of flu/covid/ILI activity in your state in the fall of 2019!
For about two weeks in early May 2020, the Seattle Times actually did some outstanding journalism on early spread. Then the paper dropped the topic like a lead ball and hasn't followed-up on this topic since. Very strange and very scary. Who could shut up an entire newspaper?
My wife and kids all had one of the worse respiratory illnesses we can remember at the very beginning of January 2020. I was sick for about a day. We never took any sort of Covid tests, so my anecdote may not be compelling in and of itself, but…
Many, many people I talked to in the first few months of 2020 had also been hit especially hard by some variation of an ILI, and at some point before the official story said “covid had started. Most of them assumed that it was “Covid”, and they had already had it. This was the genesis of many people’s skepticism I think, they’d already had “it”, whatever it was, and maybe they had been very sick, but they had lived to tell the tale. So why all the fear mongering and drama?
Bingo, Samwise. Some of us did figure this out on our own. The Great Question is why didn't our trusted public health officials figure out the same thing? I think they did. The whole pandemic has been a massive scam because at least some key officials must have known this virus had already spread around the world ... and definitely wasn't any more "deadly" than the regular flu. And they still ordered the lockdowns and the mandatory vaccines.
It's the Mother-of-All Scandals IMO. I just can't get anyone "who matters" to follow these threads and "logic chains."
I know you don't need any more stories, but I have one. A friend up here in B'ham area works in medical equipment sales. I remember asking him to let me know how I could get an antibody test when they first came out. A few months later, he said he agreed with me that covid had been circulating all over well before we were told. His brother's family had gone to the beach in Jan 2020 and all came back really sick - tested negative for flu. They hadn't been sick since then, but they all had antibodies for covid except for the youngest child who never had symptoms.
I do need more of these, Lisa. And I'm particularly interested in folks who say they later got positive antibody tests. Ask your friend if I can contact this family ... and I can add them to my list with some more details. I don't have to list their names if they aren't comfortable giving their names.
BTW, I have a friend who works for the biggest seller of medical products to doctors' offices. He told me several of his customers (doctors) had told him they were sure people had Covid months before we were all told. He doesn't want me to use his name.
Also, your report - that almost everyone in one family had tested positive for antibodies (providing compelling evidence of "early spread") - suggests to me that the clinics doing these antibody tests must have reported these possible "early cases" to their state health agencies. To this day, we don't know how many reports of "early cases" these agencies actually received (after many people finally started getting antibody tests).
I have no doubt that public health officials - in all 50 states and at the CDC - have intentionally concealed releasing this information to the public. They KNOW/KNEW large numbers of possible early cases had tested positive for antibodies.
All I've done is try to identify the 40 or so people who I know had positive antibody results. These usually came from a few media reports (plus, people in official seroprevalence studies like the "Red Cross antibody study") ... but this is just the tip of the iceberg of people who had tested positive for antibodies.
This cover-up should be a major scandal ... and a giant tell that the official narrative on the start dates of virus spread has been wrong all along.
I was in Taipei, Taiwan in late 2019, and caught something pretty nasty the first week in November. The first two or three days were the worst, then it ebbed and flowed for about two weeks before finally clearing up. My wife caught it (probably from me) about a week after I did. I stayed in the apartment for the first few days because I definitely was not up to going out.
Note that there are LOTS of mainland Chinese tourists in Taipei.
When Covid really started getting traction a few months later, I found myself wondering. I was in my late 60s at the time, so probably a higher-risk group.
Interestingly, that was the last time I was ill. I have not been sick from anything since then. And it wasn't the jab that protected me--I have not had one.
That thought did occur to me. But I haven't caught ANYTHING since then--not even seasonal flu or the common cold. That's probably the best stretch of health I've had in my life.
I still think I had it in January (although I tested negative for antibodies in mid-May). I've never gotten sick since. Nor have my two children who were sick at the same time I was.
My wife didn't get sick when we did for some reason. She later tested positive for Covid many months later, but she didn't even have any flu-like symptoms ... so I don't know about that positive PCR test result.
This kind of compilation has been needed. My sister near Houston experienced the same very severe flu-like and pulmonary illness as many here describe - in Dec. 2019/Jan 2020. Her doctor wasn't able to diagnose it with certainty. She said that lots of people in that area had the same thing after attending the Houston Rodeo and Livestock show, as if it was targeted.
Follow Up - she just reminded me that it was mid February 2020 when she had it, said it lasted for days, not a mild flu. She also said it affected her sense of taste and smell for awhile after she recovered.
Late January and early February were perhaps the high points of the real "first wave" of Covid, per research for my ILI stories. There was also a major spike in cases around Christmas and New Year's. I don't know why this is so controversial a theory. This is just a month or 1 1/2 months before the big start of "official Covid."
My brother had it late September 2019 his GP told him to go straight to hospital, he went home instead telling his wife he wouldn’t make it out alive if he went there.
My mother had it January and some of my husbands friends were ill like home after they came home from a ski trip at the start of February, one passed it onto his wife who ended up in icu with pneumonia like they’d never seen before.
Yes whatever it was or wasn’t was spreading well before the scamdemic announcement.
We’re in the UK by the way and my brother had been away on holiday to Bulgaria just before he was ill, he’s immune compromised so must have picked this up there where it was already circulating.
He never got it again until he too the darts, same with his wife who never caught it from him and had it twice after taking the darts I advised them to avoid.
Thank-you! I wonder if there was something in the 2020 flu shot that was transmitted and caused these symptoms. Personally, I had symptoms very similar to those described that started hours after the 2020 flu shot. It sounds crazy I know, but the authorities are full of lies and no one is investigating anything...appreciate your post.
That theory - your theory - comes up often, Dee Dee. The idea/possibility that the flu shots might have had something to do with the very conspicuous outbreak of ILI. I also wonder the same thing about the flu shots the next flu season. As you know doubt remember, there was a huge spike in Covid cases and deaths beginning around November 2020 and December 2020 and January 2021. This is the second year of Covid. I've always wondered if a disproportionate percentage of people who allegedly died "from Covid" had recently had their flu shots.
I remember a nurse telling me the majority of the Covid patients came from nursing homes at a hospital in NJ where she was working. Nursing home patients routinely get flu shots. We'll most likely never know...
The huge spike of "early deaths" were largely from nursing home patients and the very poor. These are people who do not have strong advocates or whose deaths are not likely to be seriously investigated. That is, they are/were the perfect "Covid victims."
I reference my earlier article on 104 Americans who contacted me after Citizen Free Press picked up on of my early spread stories. From Substack metrics, I know that story was read by approximately 20,000 people. So 1-in-192 people who read the article made the effort to contact me and say they think they had early Covid. (I figure more people must also think this, they just didn't bother sending me an email with their anecdote). Also, from that article, 8 of these readers told me they had later tested positive for antibodies - People from about 8 different states. That made me wonder how many people would have contacted me and told me they had "antibody evidence" or early Covid if this article had been read by, say, 250 million adult Americans.
Someone can do the math - and the extrapolations. My conclusion is there's a very large number of Americans who had Covid symptoms before March 1, 2020, people who also later got positive antibody tests. The thing is nobody in America knows how many Americans "tested positive for antibodies" and also had Covid symptoms before the lockdowns. This information is probably known by public health officials and, I believe, has been intentionally concealed from the public.
IMO this information was concealed to protect the false narrative that this is/was a "deadly virus." Also, to protect the official narrative that this virus didn't begin to "spread" in communities across America until late February 2020 (which is what CDC officials said in a May 29, 2020 press conference). That pronouncement, in my opinion, was a baldfaced lie. These officials KNEW there was copious evidence of wide spread going back to at least early November 2019.
A couple of my family members said they suspect they had Covid in 2019.
You've probably got this data point somewhere...but just in case
September 2019 -to March 2020 lung cancer screening in Italy, showed retrospectively that some had antibodies to SARS-CoV-2.. could have been as early as Sept 2019 that the virus circulated in Italy.
https://totalityofevidence.com/timeline/blood-work-shows-sars-cov-2-circulating-in-italy/
A reader who used to live in Atlanta just emailed me and said he made a post on social media 4 years ago about all the people who were sick in this metro city. I replied by pointing out that Atlanta is home to. ... The CDC!
The CDC must have had hundreds and hundreds of employees who were sick from an ILI between November 2019 and March 1, 2020. That is, the CDC could have tested the blood of its own employees for Covid antibodies in late February 2020. (They didn't need "archived" Red Cross blood).
They didn't do that though. IMO this is another tell that they are covering up evidence of early spread.
I didn't include myself (and my daughter and son), but we all three had definite Covid symptoms in January 2020 and never got Covid afterwards. We all three tested negative for flu. Like my fellow correspondents, I can report that there were definitive symptoms that were different than previous bouts of flu I'd endured.
My sister was also very sick in December 2019. She had difficulty breathing (she was in her 40s and very fit). She worked in the infamous Kirkland, WA nursing home, where the supposed first Covid cases were reported. She recovered fine and continued to work with people during the madness of 2020.
I figured when I wrote this I'd get even more "early case" possibilities. Thanks for sharing. I'll keep saving these! I might publish "Part 3" at some point in the future.
Note how many of these citizen correspondents give their real names. Several say they later tested positive for antibodies. This figure adds to my growing list of Americans who have stated they had Covid symptoms in 2019 and then got a positive antibody test (several got more than one positive antibody result). These people usually got their antibody tests in late April or early May 2020.
The important fact is that all of these people could have been interviewed by public health officials investigating "early spread" or "virus origins." None of them were (with the exception of two people in Washington state, who were questioned by state public health officials - but not the CDC).
If officials didn't trust these antibody results, they could have tested them again with an antibody assay of their choosing. In fact, one would think anyone who tested positive would be tested multiple times to see how long detectable levels of antibodies last.
I continue to contend that the greatest proof of "early spread" is all the investigations that should have taken place, but did not. Officials never investigate that which they do not want to "confirm."
IMO, this SHOULD be a giant tell about the trust-worthiness of our public health agencies. Also, the mainstream media won't investigate these claims either - which tells me they have "gotten the memo" to drop this area of investigation.
And I KNOW why public health officials won't investigate these possible "early cases." Because if these were honest inquiries they would probably have to confirm X number of people did have "early Covid" in November or December 2019. Furthermore, they would have to confirm early cases in at least 20 U.S. states (and several other countries). If they did this, everyone would know that this virus didn't just fall out of the sky and infect a few select people. The common-sense conclusion would be that these people were infected via "community spread." That is, the virus was spreading - and infecting - person after person across the entire globe - in late 2019. (These people had not recently been to China. They got the virus from their neighbors).
If you prove this, you are left with no other conclusion other than "many millions of people must have been infected" by this virus (which actually is very contagious). And if many millions of people had been infected - and these people hadn't later died - our "experts" couldn't sell the all-important narrative that this was an unusually "deadly" virus.
Early spread would detonate the entire false narrative that established the justification for all the government mandated responses that followed. This would kill any and all credibility these trusted public health officials and agencies have with the public.
... So I hope a few people get the motive for "concealing evidence of early spread."
Back in the fall of 2019 I worked at the WinCo in Union Gap, WA. There were so many employees that ended up sick with what initially seemed like an awful cold. It was early November when I came down with "it" and ended up in urgent care struggling to breath. I tested negative for flu and pneumonia but the doc said there were no sounds of air exchange in the left lung at all. Prescribed Prednisone and went home just as miserable as when I'd arrived. As I was a new employee I managed to miss only three days of work but drug myself to work with almost no energy and coughing this horrendous, unproductive, dry cough for 6 weeks. I was able to pull this off probably due to working the graveyard shift and having almost no contact with customers. I very much believe you are on to something regarding this being here and infecting so many way before "it" was a thing.
That's another powerful anecdote. Thank you, Cindy. There was lots of flu/covid/ILI activity in your state in the fall of 2019!
For about two weeks in early May 2020, the Seattle Times actually did some outstanding journalism on early spread. Then the paper dropped the topic like a lead ball and hasn't followed-up on this topic since. Very strange and very scary. Who could shut up an entire newspaper?
Bravo!
My wife and kids all had one of the worse respiratory illnesses we can remember at the very beginning of January 2020. I was sick for about a day. We never took any sort of Covid tests, so my anecdote may not be compelling in and of itself, but…
Many, many people I talked to in the first few months of 2020 had also been hit especially hard by some variation of an ILI, and at some point before the official story said “covid had started. Most of them assumed that it was “Covid”, and they had already had it. This was the genesis of many people’s skepticism I think, they’d already had “it”, whatever it was, and maybe they had been very sick, but they had lived to tell the tale. So why all the fear mongering and drama?
Bingo, Samwise. Some of us did figure this out on our own. The Great Question is why didn't our trusted public health officials figure out the same thing? I think they did. The whole pandemic has been a massive scam because at least some key officials must have known this virus had already spread around the world ... and definitely wasn't any more "deadly" than the regular flu. And they still ordered the lockdowns and the mandatory vaccines.
It's the Mother-of-All Scandals IMO. I just can't get anyone "who matters" to follow these threads and "logic chains."
I know you don't need any more stories, but I have one. A friend up here in B'ham area works in medical equipment sales. I remember asking him to let me know how I could get an antibody test when they first came out. A few months later, he said he agreed with me that covid had been circulating all over well before we were told. His brother's family had gone to the beach in Jan 2020 and all came back really sick - tested negative for flu. They hadn't been sick since then, but they all had antibodies for covid except for the youngest child who never had symptoms.
I do need more of these, Lisa. And I'm particularly interested in folks who say they later got positive antibody tests. Ask your friend if I can contact this family ... and I can add them to my list with some more details. I don't have to list their names if they aren't comfortable giving their names.
My email is: wjricejunior@gmail.com
BTW, I have a friend who works for the biggest seller of medical products to doctors' offices. He told me several of his customers (doctors) had told him they were sure people had Covid months before we were all told. He doesn't want me to use his name.
Also, your report - that almost everyone in one family had tested positive for antibodies (providing compelling evidence of "early spread") - suggests to me that the clinics doing these antibody tests must have reported these possible "early cases" to their state health agencies. To this day, we don't know how many reports of "early cases" these agencies actually received (after many people finally started getting antibody tests).
I have no doubt that public health officials - in all 50 states and at the CDC - have intentionally concealed releasing this information to the public. They KNOW/KNEW large numbers of possible early cases had tested positive for antibodies.
All I've done is try to identify the 40 or so people who I know had positive antibody results. These usually came from a few media reports (plus, people in official seroprevalence studies like the "Red Cross antibody study") ... but this is just the tip of the iceberg of people who had tested positive for antibodies.
This cover-up should be a major scandal ... and a giant tell that the official narrative on the start dates of virus spread has been wrong all along.
I was in Taipei, Taiwan in late 2019, and caught something pretty nasty the first week in November. The first two or three days were the worst, then it ebbed and flowed for about two weeks before finally clearing up. My wife caught it (probably from me) about a week after I did. I stayed in the apartment for the first few days because I definitely was not up to going out.
Note that there are LOTS of mainland Chinese tourists in Taipei.
When Covid really started getting traction a few months later, I found myself wondering. I was in my late 60s at the time, so probably a higher-risk group.
Interestingly, that was the last time I was ill. I have not been sick from anything since then. And it wasn't the jab that protected me--I have not had one.
You both probably had it ... and you have natural immunity. So do the people who gave it to you and any people you infected.
That thought did occur to me. But I haven't caught ANYTHING since then--not even seasonal flu or the common cold. That's probably the best stretch of health I've had in my life.
I still think I had it in January (although I tested negative for antibodies in mid-May). I've never gotten sick since. Nor have my two children who were sick at the same time I was.
My wife didn't get sick when we did for some reason. She later tested positive for Covid many months later, but she didn't even have any flu-like symptoms ... so I don't know about that positive PCR test result.
Oh, BTW--everyone in my entire extended family has had Covid, some more than once. And they have all had lots of shots.
This kind of compilation has been needed. My sister near Houston experienced the same very severe flu-like and pulmonary illness as many here describe - in Dec. 2019/Jan 2020. Her doctor wasn't able to diagnose it with certainty. She said that lots of people in that area had the same thing after attending the Houston Rodeo and Livestock show, as if it was targeted.
Follow Up - she just reminded me that it was mid February 2020 when she had it, said it lasted for days, not a mild flu. She also said it affected her sense of taste and smell for awhile after she recovered.
Late January and early February were perhaps the high points of the real "first wave" of Covid, per research for my ILI stories. There was also a major spike in cases around Christmas and New Year's. I don't know why this is so controversial a theory. This is just a month or 1 1/2 months before the big start of "official Covid."
Here in California, I have heard numerous people tell me they had the worst flu towards the end of 2019 and assume it was covid.
Sept 2019…….alll the kids in neighborhood were flu sick for 10 days. I got it. It was a bad flu and recovered….9/19
Thanks for sharing, Tim. Did you ever get sick with Covid symptoms after, say, February 2020?
No , no sickness since, no vaxx , no test
Have you seen 2ndSmartestGuyInTheWorld shared article today?
The Ethical Skeptic reporting the virus has been circulating since 2017! https://theethicalskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Brother-of-Omicron-BA-2.png?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
No. Thanks for the link and the heads up. That would definitely be a "narrative changer" if conclusively proven and accepted.
My brother had it late September 2019 his GP told him to go straight to hospital, he went home instead telling his wife he wouldn’t make it out alive if he went there.
My mother had it January and some of my husbands friends were ill like home after they came home from a ski trip at the start of February, one passed it onto his wife who ended up in icu with pneumonia like they’d never seen before.
Yes whatever it was or wasn’t was spreading well before the scamdemic announcement.
We’re in the UK by the way and my brother had been away on holiday to Bulgaria just before he was ill, he’s immune compromised so must have picked this up there where it was already circulating.
He never got it again until he too the darts, same with his wife who never caught it from him and had it twice after taking the darts I advised them to avoid.
Thank you. These are great additions to my ever-growing "anecdote" library.
Thank-you! I wonder if there was something in the 2020 flu shot that was transmitted and caused these symptoms. Personally, I had symptoms very similar to those described that started hours after the 2020 flu shot. It sounds crazy I know, but the authorities are full of lies and no one is investigating anything...appreciate your post.
That theory - your theory - comes up often, Dee Dee. The idea/possibility that the flu shots might have had something to do with the very conspicuous outbreak of ILI. I also wonder the same thing about the flu shots the next flu season. As you know doubt remember, there was a huge spike in Covid cases and deaths beginning around November 2020 and December 2020 and January 2021. This is the second year of Covid. I've always wondered if a disproportionate percentage of people who allegedly died "from Covid" had recently had their flu shots.
I remember a nurse telling me the majority of the Covid patients came from nursing homes at a hospital in NJ where she was working. Nursing home patients routinely get flu shots. We'll most likely never know...
The huge spike of "early deaths" were largely from nursing home patients and the very poor. These are people who do not have strong advocates or whose deaths are not likely to be seriously investigated. That is, they are/were the perfect "Covid victims."