A few other examples of where I’ve tried to apply logic to the thesis of my articles. (Not all of these deal with Covid scandals). For example, logic tells me that …
Everyone who received positive antibody tests (and who had Covid-like symptoms in 2019) couldn’t have ALL received a “false positive” result.
Every person (out of millions of people) who thinks they had Covid before the first confirmed case in America (January 17, 2020) probably isn’t mistaken.
Every person who thinks they or a deceased loved one was injured or died from a Covid vaccine can’t all be mistaken.
Logic says if the government was interested in seeing if vaccines were killing people, they would have budgeted money for unlimited numbers of autopsies to investigate this possibility. This definitely didn't happen.
If officials were really interested in finding possible evidence of early spread, logic tells us they would have tested as many units of “archived” blood as possible for Covid antibodies. This didn’t happen.
Logic says officials would have also interviewed everyone who later got a positive antibody test. This didn’t happen.
Forget Covid, logic tells us that investigators into any “sex trafficking” operation run by Jeffrey Epstein would have interviewed at least ONE possible “John.” This didn’t happen. No VIP clients have ever been questioned.
Logic tells us a few Facebook posts by “Russian trolls” (that nobody saw) couldn’t have persuaded hundreds of thousands of voters in key swing states to change their votes from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.
Logic tells us that man who spent two days before January 6th “insurrection” at the Capitol, telling people they must “go inside the Capitol” … would have also been arrested.
I could go on and on and on. I’m sure readers can provide their own illogical examples.
what all this means is we are facing a horrendous evil like the world has never seen before. It makes my soul sick to realize this. But I think it's obviously true.
Virologists at University of Barcelona, Spain found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China.
I wanted to mention that I now have 4,066 total subscribers - so I passed the big 4,000 number! I also have 139 paid subscribers.
If long-time readers remember, when I did my first “subscription drive” a few weeks ago, I had about 3,600 subscribers and only 106 paid subscribers.
I also want to thank everyone who shares my articles. In the past, I only got really big readership numbers when Citizen Free Press picked up one of my articles. Now I am getting impressive numbers of “reads” even when CFP doesn’t pick up an article.
I still want to thank “Citizen Kane” at CFP for routinely linking to my articles. For example, my recent Q&A with Transcriber B has now been read by more than 17,200 people world-wide.
Today’s article is about the evil “club members” who are trying to control our world … but I can report from just my little (but growing) Substack newsletter that throngs of people are rejecting their false or dubious narratives and pushing back hard against their efforts to censor genuine free speech.
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Agreed. Which makes the need for us to reach more people who will stand with us and civilly disobey the restrictions and restraints, the mandates to come, no matter the cost. Because it was the compliance of the large majority that enabled and allowed the pandemic tyranny to reign the past three years. The moment to stop it was at the onset, when minds were not made up yet.
"Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’" But we went along, too many went along, and the powers seized hold. Even they were surprised at how willingly the "free" nations went along with their controls and obeyed. As Laura Dodsworth's book "A State of Fear"
examined the members of the SPI-B behavioural science pandemic advisory group, members who initially supported the psychological controls walked away from the group scared for the future of her children and humanity. Calling Behavioural Science, "The Science of Totalitarianism."
When one looks back at history they will see that a majority of the people supporting tyrannical government isn't necessary for evil to reign. Hitler's Third Reich committed some of the worst atrocities in history, crimes against humanity, with the support of only 33% of the population. In the last free and fair election in Germany in 1932 only one-third supported the Nazi party.
Even after they seized complete power and held a snap election in 1933 they only had the support of 43% of the nation. And then went on to sheer and utter madness that drew the world in to a world war with unspeakable carnage, murdering millions in an assembly line fashion that Henry Ford was proud of.
Because the good people obeyed. And didn't speak up. Were afraid of "cancel culture" in their era. Losing their jobs, their friends, their status. It's how a minority can intimidate a majority into doing nothing while crimes against humanity rage all around them. Many remained in denial even after seeing the death camps and experiencing the ravages of war, claiming they didn't know or the evil was the work of Hitler's enemies. Eyes. Wide. Shut. And mouths.
Martin Niemöller’s "First they came..." poem told that story. It was supposed to be a warning. So that we would learn from history. Unfortunately, since 2020 we are repeating it. And unless we focus on getting more people a significant minority if not a clear majority of our family, friends, neighbors and colleagues to refuse to go along with whatever the next restrictions will be we will repeat and surpass the crimes of the Nazi regime. If what's already been set in motion already hasn't...silently in unreported obscurity. No matter how much the powers that be sweeten the pot with claims of convenience, safety, caring or other emotional appeals and marketing to lure them in, first voluntarily, then coercively, then mandated, then punished for disobeying, we must recruit more like-minded, willing to civilly disobey, and stand against tyranny. Or they will win With only a minority supporting them.
The science says most won't follow us. Especially as the ruthlessness of disobeying is escalated. But we must try. With a competing vision. A vision that helps our family, friends, communities and colleagues understand the stakes, the gift of freedom, as precious as it is. And will join with us to fight to protect it. To restore it. As our ancestors bequeathed unto us. As God himself wants for us, his greatest creation.
Powerful words. I hope more citizens start to "get" what's happening ... and what's at stake for the futures of their children and grandchildren. A minority can act like a bullying mob and bring about tyranny and genuine terror. As you note, history tells us this is so.
That job falls onto us. We can't just hope they start to get it, afraid of alienating friends, family, etc. We have to prepare them. We have to find words and approaches that work. That connect. Even with those we may initially have sharp disagreements with. It's all in the approach. A great resource for those who have the capacity to take in a classroom-style presentation of material that can be dry, but is necessary to understand:
This is what God has placed us here to do for humanity, our calling. He gave us the gift to see through the deceptions. And wants us to help others. And give thanks and praise to him for giving us the gift of discernment so strongly within us. Not just engaging with the already converted. Doing the difficult, missionary work in our sphere of influence.
That's one of my logical take-aways: We can't wait for the cavalry to come and rescue us or do the "adult" work that has to be done. We're going to have to do this ourselves.
But, the good news is: We can. It would just take one initiative or "leader" to finally "break through" all the gatekeepers of lies.
Thanks for the links, and words. I have a feeling you've read "Defying Hitler". If not I'm sure you would be glad once you did. I couldn't put it down. I read it in 2020, it was exactly like what we were going through then, and are still mired in.
Pretty on the money here. I always tried to stress that the biggest story about the Twitter Files wasn't really even the Twitter Files themselves -- although that's a HUGE story that deserves intense scrutiny -- it was the fact that there's also an ABC Files, a CBS Files, a New York Times files, a Facebook Files, a Google Files, a Reddit Files, etc etc etc. Basically anybody who was anybody was being told what to do by government -- sometimes through 'public/private partnerships' that tried to hide the origin of the censorship.
For me, the hope is that all these places end up crumbling because censorship is an unworkable long-term solution. Then the hope is that the things that rise up to replace those legacy media entities have a different approach altogether. (This is where you come in)
It all makes sense. Logical conclusions are a method that all of us use, probably all the time, often subconsciously.
I also do believe there is some sort of club, where the members discuss their strategies. It is not something any of us can see/witness. But we experience the outcome and consequences of those decisions. Applying the principles of reverse engineering to the outcome and consequences, we can conclude what was decided by the club members.
One example that showcases this collusion: When prices went up in stores due to inflation, they went up almost simultaneously and at almost the same percentage everywhere. Prices haven't come back down much. If there truly would be competition between these companies, you would think at least one of them would lower their prices to attract a lot of customers and "steal" business from a competitor. For some odd reason, that hasn't happened.
In regards to the lawsuit, I do believe that a good number of judges have been bought. That's why no one seems to be worried. You can't tell me that the club didn't think about the judicial branch. They control the executive and legislative branches. You can't leave the third branch uncontrolled. These lawsuits are a good way to keep all of us busy. We think it's being looked at, but most people will move on after some months or years before there is any result. By then the outcome probably doesn't matter to most people anymore, it's too long ago.
The interesting question is, how do we break such club apart? Not with a lawsuit. We should hear from people who grew up under similar circumstances. Are there any people here from East Germany, before the Wall fell? Everything was controlled in East Germany. The Stasi (secret government police) had their eyes and ears everywhere, to shut down any resistance. What happened behind the scenes before the Wall fell? Any government insiders, who can tell us? How did the people communicate and coordinate without Internet and social media? How did they keep it secret from the Stasi?
Great post, observations and suggestions. You make a good point. Logically, if you wanted to control government, you'd also have to pretty much control the Judicial branch as well. And you make another great point that legal proceedings can be delayed and drawn out so long that when you finally get some resolution/verdict nobody cares any more.
Regarding East Germany, logic tells me that's the direction we're heading. I just don't think you can have "authoritarianism lite." Or once you start censoring suddenly say, "Okay, we're going to stop now." What happens is they have to censor and control even more to cover up all their past lies and crimes. And also to get the rest of their programs implemented ... and they aren't done implementing the key parts of their program. (Digital currency for example).
As I read your post KD, the following thoughts/questions came up:
- Excellent observation on food prices. Perhaps the club has had far more influence for far longer, e.g. why does NOBODY talk about the significant food inflation that occurred in summer 2007? At the time I followed MSM and saw/heard no mention of it; in the last two years commentary I read/hear (all of it alternative media ecosystem) makes zero reference to that period of time. This is when “shrinkflation” began: no more 16 ounce cans of beans, vegetables, tomato sauce; shaved off a half or full ounce in packaged cereals and crackers; toilet paper rolls were a smidge narrower; toothpaste sold in smaller containers at same prices. Oh, and goodbye to $1.00 coffee & tea even at Denny’s, as well as huge servings of free rice with Asian food of one’s choice. 2008 was the economic catastrophe for those not already destroyed by the hollowing out of the domestic manufacturing sector. In last two years these trends are on steroids in groceries and restaurant foods that were not as affected. I mean, a bottle of isopropyl alcohol costs $3??? At the budget grocery???
- When Judge Emmet Sullivan decided all by himself to ignore the DOJ dropping the case against Michael Flynn, it was clear to me then that the judiciary was in trouble. The entire legal profession is in trouble insofar as the Constitution goes. Project 65 targeting effective attorneys so that they can no longer practice law, no one in the profession will associate with them, no newly minted lawyers will cross the invisible line...yesterday’s ruling on states’ role in election management is clearly not in line with the Constitution but the mob threatened the justices for the last year, and only 3 had the courage to adhere to the Constitution.
We do need to learn from those who survived East Germany and other totalitarian regimes.
I was worried about a few billionaires colluding against me. You have widened my view now that I have to worry about them plus almost every large corporation on the earth in western civilization.
To what end is their purpose is the next question. There don't seem to be any major whistleblowers coming forward on their deeds and intentions.
Jennifer Zeng reports that a whistle blower scientist has come forward from Wuhan Institute of Virology to admit he was assigned to test corona virus 19 virility and suspects some of his colleagues were sent to Wuhan military games to test Covid 19 virus.
Nearly there Bill! The Rockefeller depopulation plan and manufactured heroes await you...
Logic tells you that once they started going after the children with the shots, and knew how dangerous the mRNA platform was 20 years ago, it was never about 'health.'
Logic tells you that the manufactured heroes (who are in the club - RFK jr married to a provax actress, Don Jr married to Newsom's ex) are there so the power structure is maintained.
Pinterest the latest example of a company selling out to Big Pharma, Blackrock, and Vanguard. A casually sent email from Pinterest led me to read the new policies ~ which ban any and all claims that counter the scientific community’s stance on climate change.
If you hint that *maybe* the Earth is warming due to a natural cycle that has occurred repeatedly over millions of years, like, during the Ice Age, no posts for you!
There’s a lot more there. My hunch is the powers that be are ensuring all terms of service and community standards are in line as we approach 2024.
They threatened to kick me off of Pinterest for some of my content. They did not say which content though! After reading the community guidelines, I closed that account completely. I opened a new account to get more cat memes though. Stupid. Bye-bye Pinterest again!
My revenge on Facebook was that I started my own Substack newsletter.
They kept censoring me so my contrarian Covid posts might have reached maybe 10 of my "followers" (when my account wasn't suspended).
I said, "screw this" and belatedly started my own Substack. Not to brag, but my articles have now been read by more than 750,000 people in all 50 states and about 70 nations.
So I need to send a thank you note to Mark Zuckerberg and Meta's 20,000 "content moderators."
Bravo, Bill!! I quit Facebook because I was spending too much time posting back and forth with family and friends. And watching cat videos. Hey, I'm old and I like cat videos!! Still, in my case, I should have been doing just about anything else.
It’s as if the seed for the whole censorship regime which has metastasized throughout all levels of government was born during Hillary’s campaign.
From there those who believe strongly in censorship spread all over the body of America. It’s a contributing ailment in the nation’s current ill state of affairs.
Now begins the arduous task to finding and ridding these censorious growths wherever we find them, whether it’s in the WH, Pentagon, corner offices of Pinterest, or City Hall. ✌️❤️🇺🇸
and......if by some chance they hadn't thought of that either Trump, De Santis or RFK is giving them a run for their money, there is always the option of an "accident" that will better their odds of maintaining their grip. They've duped at least half our population unknowingly join in their game. ...though they only follow and the main players advance. And, we are stuck knowing truths that are self evident, but unable to reach the others. Their minds are closed
This is an approach that starts with a set of observations and then provides a simple and plausible explanation for those observations. Unlike deductive reasoning, there is no verification of the theory. It is simply a well-crafted story that rationally contains the important observable facts. We live in a world full of these stories.
Thanks, Andy. I don't know the technical names of the type of "reasoning" I am trying to use. But this abductive reasoning definition definitely fits what I'm trying to do. Observe a series of events - and then try to come up with a theory that would plausibly explain all these events.
"I think club members somehow know that Donald Trump, Robert Kennedy, Jr. or Ron DeSantis are not going to become the next president of the United States."
Bill, I dont believe the notion that evil is monolithic and cannot be overcome by good. I dont think you should ceed this. I believe in God who is not limited in our capacity to be pessimistic (although I would consider myself very pessismistic). That said, our nation and our nations global media and big tech have all been infiltrated by global communism in their theology.
One quote that i think sums it up nicely is from David Horowitz (the ex-communist) on his web site it says on top "Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out". Well, he was right. What we are witnessing is totalitarian in outlook and spirit. No deviation is allowed. This is why the lockstep is so formidable. And they might take completely over this nation. They might rule that the republican party and libertarians etc are against the law (just as the Nazis did after Hitler came to power--it only took them 100 days to totally destroy their republic. We may have this in future if American Christians dont pray and repent. The entire world is headed for global communist rule of Antichrist, so from a Christian perspective, it has been determined to happen at some point in time. Thanks
Thanks, Arnold. Great post. I've also written a piece predicting that "The Good Guys will win in the end" (although I admit I vacillate on this prediction). I agree this might be a battle of Good vs. Real Evil. And that we need the faith community to lead this fight.
Did you see this column I wrote on "Good vs. Evil?"
Awesome article and bringing to light the notion of evil. One point to bring up, America and the west have been heading down this evil path for 100+ years of humanistic and communist inspired progressivism. The ultimate evil we are facing is the climate change hoax which is going to kill billions around the globe...
the lies are so numerous that we have embraced and taking a bath in them--they are cordwood stacked to the heavens like the tower of Babel. C-vxx is just the tip of the spear. We as a nation are likely under judgment for these things according to the word that Paul wrote in Romans 1 and as outlined in Deut chapter 28. The lies and evil that America has embraced and spawned can only be defeated by truth and only by the Spirit of God and Jesus Christ who can deliver us. It is not going to happen by the will of man or wisdom or by force alone. I believe Christians who believe in prayer must take the vanguard on this.
My friend Dr. Stewart Tankersely of Montgomery, Alabama keeps making the same points, which I find very convincing. I need to put y'all in touch with one another.
It is my tendency to agree with you on these points Bill about having no accountability for whatever has been done and will continue to be done. A new mayor was just elected here in Toronto who will no doubt be following the Trudea... a, Sing...NDP / Liberal agenda saying at this time she doesn't think she will be using the new mayoral powers - l'm looking forward to how long that statement lasts . When it is election time here again , I suspect young trudea. .., Klaus, Singe , along with Xi, will probably have a majority . So many people needing donations for their legal funds , it is hard not to think they remotely have any chance of winning since we have been sold out totally it seems to me.
So disheartening that Canadians would still elect that Mayor after everything that has been exposed these past few years. Why would anyone want to go further down this road? Canada it seems is hopeless.
At this point , at least where I live , there seems to be many people here coming out of the woodwork from Beijing , and the government has been stalling about the CCP's interference with our elected officials and there is no mention of Klaus as the puppet master for the liberals and the NDP -as if he isn't there ! I suspect , and I hope I'm wrong , she could become like a Cary Lam in Hong Kong who did all the bidding to get rid of the democarcy that was there . Also I think there was a lot of $ put into her campaign by the current powers that be at this federal level. It's easy to take full advantage of mostly good- natured people who have no inclination that their government wants to either kill them or enslave them ,in my opinion.
What is it about Australia that seems to be the harbinger of things to come ? When I saw my GP many years ago , she would frequently threaten me with the worst case scenarios coming out of Australia because I wouldn't take either the drugs or vaccines she suggested . I thought she was great for me, because I would do the opposite of what she suggested.
Imagine , just thinking I'd love to be wrong about this but , my leaps of thought points , drive the usual suspects in my family crazy - kind of why I have a closet full of tinfoil . My husband hates it when I tell him what is going to happen in a series we may be watching , because I can get there easily; he is swimming in the shallow ends and I'm deep diving and seeing what's beneath most surfaces .
I cant watch many movies as as soon as it gets interesting my mind has seen the obvious end, or worked out 3 possible endings, which Im correct. The one that really caught me by surprise a long time ago was "sixth sense" watched it again the other day and even knowing I still felt it was fabulous
Just saw this Wendy as I may be on different time lines from you or reading so many things. I'm thinking the same way about re watching many movies again and loving them, but maybe it's more about forgetting what we already saw and it's new again - the advantages of pre senility! However when I reread some older books I find myself thinking , they were wasted on my youth because now I think I "sort of" get it !
Exactly. Canadians are generally testing of institutions. Most don’t get how easily Canada can fall into tyranny with the wrong leadership. There are very few safeguards and only recently have those limits to power been seriously compromised on every front.
It is becoming a bit clearer to me now , that some people are saying they don't like this government/ new mayor but will easily say they are happy to be 5 into the juice and don't seem to know that the virus could be spread regardless of the shots . Not an ioata of compassion for those who lost jobs /friends, and family members during this debacle .
I have worked around Canadians in the exploration mineral industry. Very decent fellows. I found them oddly trusting of government. Not that I tried but you couldn't make a dent in that faith. I brought up the Bill of Rights once to an RCMP guy in Haiti when the u.n. took over.
It was like a hog looking at a wristwatch.
The reaction was weird like I was in a real time 1984.
Uh, hate to point this out, but you are conflating deductive with inductive reasoning. Logic is deductive: if the premises of a valid argument are true, then the conclusion must be true. Must, as in, there is no possible world in which the conclusion are false and premises are true. There are a variety of deductive logics: boolean, first order, second order, modal, etc.
As soon as you use terms like 'probably' and 'predict', you are using inductive reasoning. Sometimes people use those terms when they are making analogical arguments. Dr. Spock abuses the term 'logic': in the Star Trek (vulgar) interpretation, logic is just about anything.
Susan Haack's books are a good place to start in understanding how deductive systems work. Any university textbook on symbolic logic is worth a read.
"Dr. Spock abuses the term 'logic': in the Star Trek (vulgar) interpretation, logic is just about anything." That would be *Mr.* Spock. Dr. Spock was a pediatrician. Sorry for the knee-jerk nerd reaction.
I disagree, logic is not limited to deductive reasoning. My degree is in math, philosophy was one of my minors, and I took every logic course in the department, loved the topic. After all, trying to figure shiites out is one of the main points of life IMO. That was over 50 years ago so I don't remember all the definitions as you do, but I did just look up the definition of logic and did not find anything that limited it to using deductive reasoning. When you see the same patterns repeatedly, and expect the exact opposite next time, is that not illogical? Of course it's possible somebody has defined logic as only applicable to the use of deductive reasoning. That doesn't make it the universally recognized definition.
I should have looked up the definitions of "logic" and "deductive reasoning." I remember I also took a course in college on "logic." It all made intuitive sense to me. I'd been using it without knowing I was using it.
That course was worthwhile as it helped students understand all the "logical fallacies" of arguments/claims.
Seems to me the concept of logic has more in common with deductive than inductive reasoning. But it's not the same. Deductive reasoning has a narrow, well-defined definition. "Logic", as commonly used, is a broader term. It's always seemed to me it means looking at evidence and coming to a reasonable conclusion, that's consistent with that evidence, regardless of the method of reasoning used. IOW, if you know absolutely nothing about astronomy but expect the sun to come up tomorrow, you are being more logical than someone who thinks it finally is going to stop doing that. Logical, but inductive, not deductive reasoning.
I spent 12 hours over the past week listening to Scott Horton's recent 12 hr podcast covering all things Waco. I was 18 when Waco happened, a senior in high school. I remember the watching the nightly news and thinking what a bunch of freaks - other than that I was busy working at an after school job most nights and didn't pay attention. I first learned what really happened in Waco around 2010 with the advent of YouTube and podcasts. I can't think of anything I've ever learned about atrocities committed by our government that made me more libertarian/anti-government than Waco. I was a conservative, and then I saw what the government can do to law-abiding citizens. No government created in the land of the free and home of the brave should be allowed to have that kind of power. If you are completely lost at what I am saying you can watch this on YouTube. https://youtu.be/Xr9pQ1pIbiU
The Branch Davidians only crime was not paying a tax on some of their guns, a misdemeanor offense. Being in what most people call "a cult" isn't a crime. The underage sex accusations were investigated by local law enforcement. Those alleged crimes, while they probably were true, don't fall under the jurisdiction of either the ATF or the FBI.
My point in bringing up Waco is this: There was so much public outrage that congressional hearings were held. Then an Academy Award nominated documentary "Waco: Rules of Engagement" and a follow up documentary "Waco: A New Revelation" were released. There is FLIR infrared video of 2 men leaving one of the tanks and shooting rapid automatic rifles into Mt. Carmel to murder the residents. 15 bodies with bullet wounds were found in the part of the residence, and the FBI still to this day claims they never fired a single bullet during the assault. Then the Attorney General, due to more public outrage, assigned a special counsel to investigate. The Danforth Report of course absolved the federal government of any wrongdoing. So, these things have been going on for decades and will continue. If you are expecting the government to solve it's problems (or yours), you'll be waiting forever.
Don't look into Waco if you're worried about losing sleep.
Waco was laced with lies and cya tactics. Ruby Ridge was along those same lines. It became evident that the "forces" involved were testing the waters, to see what the public would endure. The media was complicit as well.
What is your stance on OK. City Murrah bldg attack? Have you done the due diligence required to know about that ordeal? And of course, to leave out the biggest false flag operation of that time, (Twin Towers and bldg 9 or was it 7) would be lame. The evidence that was quickly brought to the table, by smart, and experts in their fields, was given an "audience" but it was squashed by propaganda, and to this very day, not one single thing was done about any of it!
Sure it pales in comparison to the c-19 planned ordeal, but it was so very "in your face" and dramatic in its audacity, scope, and response from the duped public.
The second amendment was penned to correct the overreach issues, but was circumvented by the people, who it might otherwise have protected. So we can't sit here and complain, as we do nothing. Blood was not just "spilled" but was a torrent caused by the Govt backed jabs! We did nothing about that as well, and they've just grown stronger with longer K-9s! Wait until they proclaim ANY dissention in written or oral form is prosecutable and a felony. Maybe that's already in gear and moving. Wait until they show up on your front porch, and cover your back door as well, and demand you take the necessary jab which they'll force on you, or take you to a camp. This is coming. I can feel it. It's late in the game to bitch and moan about how deceitful they are, with no heart, or conscience as they murder God's creation, "we the people."
I have no hope for the future of this world, other than when Jesus Christ will arrive in person to resurrect the dead in Christ, and gather the living saints with them, and take them all to heaven for the milenium. forgive my spelling. Then, the entire world will be ravaged and turned upside down in a chaotic mess of destruction. THAT will be the beginning of the fix to the problem. .
Sorry I don't have a nicer picture to share. The Truth is often harsh.
A few other examples of where I’ve tried to apply logic to the thesis of my articles. (Not all of these deal with Covid scandals). For example, logic tells me that …
Everyone who received positive antibody tests (and who had Covid-like symptoms in 2019) couldn’t have ALL received a “false positive” result.
Every person (out of millions of people) who thinks they had Covid before the first confirmed case in America (January 17, 2020) probably isn’t mistaken.
Every person who thinks they or a deceased loved one was injured or died from a Covid vaccine can’t all be mistaken.
Logic says if the government was interested in seeing if vaccines were killing people, they would have budgeted money for unlimited numbers of autopsies to investigate this possibility. This definitely didn't happen.
If officials were really interested in finding possible evidence of early spread, logic tells us they would have tested as many units of “archived” blood as possible for Covid antibodies. This didn’t happen.
Logic says officials would have also interviewed everyone who later got a positive antibody test. This didn’t happen.
Forget Covid, logic tells us that investigators into any “sex trafficking” operation run by Jeffrey Epstein would have interviewed at least ONE possible “John.” This didn’t happen. No VIP clients have ever been questioned.
Logic tells us a few Facebook posts by “Russian trolls” (that nobody saw) couldn’t have persuaded hundreds of thousands of voters in key swing states to change their votes from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.
Logic tells us that man who spent two days before January 6th “insurrection” at the Capitol, telling people they must “go inside the Capitol” … would have also been arrested.
I could go on and on and on. I’m sure readers can provide their own illogical examples.
what all this means is we are facing a horrendous evil like the world has never seen before. It makes my soul sick to realize this. But I think it's obviously true.
Logic tells me that the Biden government doesn’t need no stinking “Budget”. At least not one they are following
Virologists at University of Barcelona, Spain found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ
Now.. that's one hell of a logic trip, right there! :)
THANK YOU TO ALL MY READERS!
I wanted to mention that I now have 4,066 total subscribers - so I passed the big 4,000 number! I also have 139 paid subscribers.
If long-time readers remember, when I did my first “subscription drive” a few weeks ago, I had about 3,600 subscribers and only 106 paid subscribers.
I also want to thank everyone who shares my articles. In the past, I only got really big readership numbers when Citizen Free Press picked up one of my articles. Now I am getting impressive numbers of “reads” even when CFP doesn’t pick up an article.
I still want to thank “Citizen Kane” at CFP for routinely linking to my articles. For example, my recent Q&A with Transcriber B has now been read by more than 17,200 people world-wide.
Today’s article is about the evil “club members” who are trying to control our world … but I can report from just my little (but growing) Substack newsletter that throngs of people are rejecting their false or dubious narratives and pushing back hard against their efforts to censor genuine free speech.
Lastly, a new function of Substack is that I get a notification when someone upgrades to a “paid subscription.” These emails include a nice message from readers saying why they decided to become a paid subscriber. I know it's hard to do this when there are so many excellent Substack sites and disposable income is more important than ever in this inflationary world … so I really appreciate this show of support …. as well as the nice and encouraging messages.
- Bill
Agreed. Which makes the need for us to reach more people who will stand with us and civilly disobey the restrictions and restraints, the mandates to come, no matter the cost. Because it was the compliance of the large majority that enabled and allowed the pandemic tyranny to reign the past three years. The moment to stop it was at the onset, when minds were not made up yet.
https://pressblog.uchicago.edu/2016/12/05/excerpt-they-thought-they-were-free.html
"Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’" But we went along, too many went along, and the powers seized hold. Even they were surprised at how willingly the "free" nations went along with their controls and obeyed. As Laura Dodsworth's book "A State of Fear"
https://lauradodsworth.substack.com/p/welcome-to-my-newsletter-144
examined the members of the SPI-B behavioural science pandemic advisory group, members who initially supported the psychological controls walked away from the group scared for the future of her children and humanity. Calling Behavioural Science, "The Science of Totalitarianism."
https://web.archive.org/web/20210519003131/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/scientists-admit-totalitarian-use-fear-control-behaviour-covid/
When one looks back at history they will see that a majority of the people supporting tyrannical government isn't necessary for evil to reign. Hitler's Third Reich committed some of the worst atrocities in history, crimes against humanity, with the support of only 33% of the population. In the last free and fair election in Germany in 1932 only one-third supported the Nazi party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932_German_federal_election
Even after they seized complete power and held a snap election in 1933 they only had the support of 43% of the nation. And then went on to sheer and utter madness that drew the world in to a world war with unspeakable carnage, murdering millions in an assembly line fashion that Henry Ford was proud of.
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/american_supporters_of_the_europ.htm
Because the good people obeyed. And didn't speak up. Were afraid of "cancel culture" in their era. Losing their jobs, their friends, their status. It's how a minority can intimidate a majority into doing nothing while crimes against humanity rage all around them. Many remained in denial even after seeing the death camps and experiencing the ravages of war, claiming they didn't know or the evil was the work of Hitler's enemies. Eyes. Wide. Shut. And mouths.
https://owlcation.com/humanities/What-Did-Average-germans-Know-Concentration-Camps
Martin Niemöller’s "First they came..." poem told that story. It was supposed to be a warning. So that we would learn from history. Unfortunately, since 2020 we are repeating it. And unless we focus on getting more people a significant minority if not a clear majority of our family, friends, neighbors and colleagues to refuse to go along with whatever the next restrictions will be we will repeat and surpass the crimes of the Nazi regime. If what's already been set in motion already hasn't...silently in unreported obscurity. No matter how much the powers that be sweeten the pot with claims of convenience, safety, caring or other emotional appeals and marketing to lure them in, first voluntarily, then coercively, then mandated, then punished for disobeying, we must recruit more like-minded, willing to civilly disobey, and stand against tyranny. Or they will win With only a minority supporting them.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists
The science says most won't follow us. Especially as the ruthlessness of disobeying is escalated. But we must try. With a competing vision. A vision that helps our family, friends, communities and colleagues understand the stakes, the gift of freedom, as precious as it is. And will join with us to fight to protect it. To restore it. As our ancestors bequeathed unto us. As God himself wants for us, his greatest creation.
https://www.sciencealert.com/would-you-stand-up-to-an-authoritarian-regime-or-conform-here-s-the-science
Powerful words. I hope more citizens start to "get" what's happening ... and what's at stake for the futures of their children and grandchildren. A minority can act like a bullying mob and bring about tyranny and genuine terror. As you note, history tells us this is so.
That job falls onto us. We can't just hope they start to get it, afraid of alienating friends, family, etc. We have to prepare them. We have to find words and approaches that work. That connect. Even with those we may initially have sharp disagreements with. It's all in the approach. A great resource for those who have the capacity to take in a classroom-style presentation of material that can be dry, but is necessary to understand:
https://reachingpeople.net
https://reachingpeople.net/presentations/
This is what God has placed us here to do for humanity, our calling. He gave us the gift to see through the deceptions. And wants us to help others. And give thanks and praise to him for giving us the gift of discernment so strongly within us. Not just engaging with the already converted. Doing the difficult, missionary work in our sphere of influence.
That's one of my logical take-aways: We can't wait for the cavalry to come and rescue us or do the "adult" work that has to be done. We're going to have to do this ourselves.
But, the good news is: We can. It would just take one initiative or "leader" to finally "break through" all the gatekeepers of lies.
Thanks for the links, and words. I have a feeling you've read "Defying Hitler". If not I'm sure you would be glad once you did. I couldn't put it down. I read it in 2020, it was exactly like what we were going through then, and are still mired in.
I've not. I will find it. Thank you.
Pretty on the money here. I always tried to stress that the biggest story about the Twitter Files wasn't really even the Twitter Files themselves -- although that's a HUGE story that deserves intense scrutiny -- it was the fact that there's also an ABC Files, a CBS Files, a New York Times files, a Facebook Files, a Google Files, a Reddit Files, etc etc etc. Basically anybody who was anybody was being told what to do by government -- sometimes through 'public/private partnerships' that tried to hide the origin of the censorship.
For me, the hope is that all these places end up crumbling because censorship is an unworkable long-term solution. Then the hope is that the things that rise up to replace those legacy media entities have a different approach altogether. (This is where you come in)
Great article!
It all makes sense. Logical conclusions are a method that all of us use, probably all the time, often subconsciously.
I also do believe there is some sort of club, where the members discuss their strategies. It is not something any of us can see/witness. But we experience the outcome and consequences of those decisions. Applying the principles of reverse engineering to the outcome and consequences, we can conclude what was decided by the club members.
One example that showcases this collusion: When prices went up in stores due to inflation, they went up almost simultaneously and at almost the same percentage everywhere. Prices haven't come back down much. If there truly would be competition between these companies, you would think at least one of them would lower their prices to attract a lot of customers and "steal" business from a competitor. For some odd reason, that hasn't happened.
In regards to the lawsuit, I do believe that a good number of judges have been bought. That's why no one seems to be worried. You can't tell me that the club didn't think about the judicial branch. They control the executive and legislative branches. You can't leave the third branch uncontrolled. These lawsuits are a good way to keep all of us busy. We think it's being looked at, but most people will move on after some months or years before there is any result. By then the outcome probably doesn't matter to most people anymore, it's too long ago.
The interesting question is, how do we break such club apart? Not with a lawsuit. We should hear from people who grew up under similar circumstances. Are there any people here from East Germany, before the Wall fell? Everything was controlled in East Germany. The Stasi (secret government police) had their eyes and ears everywhere, to shut down any resistance. What happened behind the scenes before the Wall fell? Any government insiders, who can tell us? How did the people communicate and coordinate without Internet and social media? How did they keep it secret from the Stasi?
Great post, observations and suggestions. You make a good point. Logically, if you wanted to control government, you'd also have to pretty much control the Judicial branch as well. And you make another great point that legal proceedings can be delayed and drawn out so long that when you finally get some resolution/verdict nobody cares any more.
Regarding East Germany, logic tells me that's the direction we're heading. I just don't think you can have "authoritarianism lite." Or once you start censoring suddenly say, "Okay, we're going to stop now." What happens is they have to censor and control even more to cover up all their past lies and crimes. And also to get the rest of their programs implemented ... and they aren't done implementing the key parts of their program. (Digital currency for example).
As I read your post KD, the following thoughts/questions came up:
- Excellent observation on food prices. Perhaps the club has had far more influence for far longer, e.g. why does NOBODY talk about the significant food inflation that occurred in summer 2007? At the time I followed MSM and saw/heard no mention of it; in the last two years commentary I read/hear (all of it alternative media ecosystem) makes zero reference to that period of time. This is when “shrinkflation” began: no more 16 ounce cans of beans, vegetables, tomato sauce; shaved off a half or full ounce in packaged cereals and crackers; toilet paper rolls were a smidge narrower; toothpaste sold in smaller containers at same prices. Oh, and goodbye to $1.00 coffee & tea even at Denny’s, as well as huge servings of free rice with Asian food of one’s choice. 2008 was the economic catastrophe for those not already destroyed by the hollowing out of the domestic manufacturing sector. In last two years these trends are on steroids in groceries and restaurant foods that were not as affected. I mean, a bottle of isopropyl alcohol costs $3??? At the budget grocery???
- When Judge Emmet Sullivan decided all by himself to ignore the DOJ dropping the case against Michael Flynn, it was clear to me then that the judiciary was in trouble. The entire legal profession is in trouble insofar as the Constitution goes. Project 65 targeting effective attorneys so that they can no longer practice law, no one in the profession will associate with them, no newly minted lawyers will cross the invisible line...yesterday’s ruling on states’ role in election management is clearly not in line with the Constitution but the mob threatened the justices for the last year, and only 3 had the courage to adhere to the Constitution.
We do need to learn from those who survived East Germany and other totalitarian regimes.
Logic no longer works on this planet.
That's my logical take-away.
only fear now
They "logically" concluded that fear rules the masses. They were right about that, but I guess this has been the case since recorded history started.
I was worried about a few billionaires colluding against me. You have widened my view now that I have to worry about them plus almost every large corporation on the earth in western civilization.
To what end is their purpose is the next question. There don't seem to be any major whistleblowers coming forward on their deeds and intentions.
Just a quick update.
Jennifer Zeng reports that a whistle blower scientist has come forward from Wuhan Institute of Virology to admit he was assigned to test corona virus 19 virility and suspects some of his colleagues were sent to Wuhan military games to test Covid 19 virus.
https://slaynews.com/news/wuhan-researcher-blows-whistle-covid-engineered-bioweapon/
Nearly there Bill! The Rockefeller depopulation plan and manufactured heroes await you...
Logic tells you that once they started going after the children with the shots, and knew how dangerous the mRNA platform was 20 years ago, it was never about 'health.'
Logic tells you that the manufactured heroes (who are in the club - RFK jr married to a provax actress, Don Jr married to Newsom's ex) are there so the power structure is maintained.
(No! It's too far you say! I cannot go there!)
Eventually, you will go there.
Pinterest the latest example of a company selling out to Big Pharma, Blackrock, and Vanguard. A casually sent email from Pinterest led me to read the new policies ~ which ban any and all claims that counter the scientific community’s stance on climate change.
If you hint that *maybe* the Earth is warming due to a natural cycle that has occurred repeatedly over millions of years, like, during the Ice Age, no posts for you!
There’s a lot more there. My hunch is the powers that be are ensuring all terms of service and community standards are in line as we approach 2024.
Who’s next?
https://policy.pinterest.com/en/community-guidelines
They threatened to kick me off of Pinterest for some of my content. They did not say which content though! After reading the community guidelines, I closed that account completely. I opened a new account to get more cat memes though. Stupid. Bye-bye Pinterest again!
My revenge on Facebook was that I started my own Substack newsletter.
They kept censoring me so my contrarian Covid posts might have reached maybe 10 of my "followers" (when my account wasn't suspended).
I said, "screw this" and belatedly started my own Substack. Not to brag, but my articles have now been read by more than 750,000 people in all 50 states and about 70 nations.
So I need to send a thank you note to Mark Zuckerberg and Meta's 20,000 "content moderators."
Bravo, Bill!! I quit Facebook because I was spending too much time posting back and forth with family and friends. And watching cat videos. Hey, I'm old and I like cat videos!! Still, in my case, I should have been doing just about anything else.
try Gab they probably have a cat video group.
Btw, the chief public affairs officer for Pinterest worked for Hillary for America.
It’s as if the seed for the whole censorship regime which has metastasized throughout all levels of government was born during Hillary’s campaign.
From there those who believe strongly in censorship spread all over the body of America. It’s a contributing ailment in the nation’s current ill state of affairs.
Now begins the arduous task to finding and ridding these censorious growths wherever we find them, whether it’s in the WH, Pentagon, corner offices of Pinterest, or City Hall. ✌️❤️🇺🇸
No wonder they went after me! I had a whole board full of Conservative memes and another one full of anti-lefty memes.
try Gab, it's the only free site that I know of.
"hillary for America" is hilarious.
Follow the money, follow the logic... makes sense to me.
and......if by some chance they hadn't thought of that either Trump, De Santis or RFK is giving them a run for their money, there is always the option of an "accident" that will better their odds of maintaining their grip. They've duped at least half our population unknowingly join in their game. ...though they only follow and the main players advance. And, we are stuck knowing truths that are self evident, but unable to reach the others. Their minds are closed
Hence the concerted effort to convict Trump. On the same charges Hilary literally laughed about - as she openly destroyed the evidence.
Exactly
And then there is abductive reasoning.
This is an approach that starts with a set of observations and then provides a simple and plausible explanation for those observations. Unlike deductive reasoning, there is no verification of the theory. It is simply a well-crafted story that rationally contains the important observable facts. We live in a world full of these stories.
Thanks, Andy. I don't know the technical names of the type of "reasoning" I am trying to use. But this abductive reasoning definition definitely fits what I'm trying to do. Observe a series of events - and then try to come up with a theory that would plausibly explain all these events.
"I think club members somehow know that Donald Trump, Robert Kennedy, Jr. or Ron DeSantis are not going to become the next president of the United States."
Bill, I dont believe the notion that evil is monolithic and cannot be overcome by good. I dont think you should ceed this. I believe in God who is not limited in our capacity to be pessimistic (although I would consider myself very pessismistic). That said, our nation and our nations global media and big tech have all been infiltrated by global communism in their theology.
One quote that i think sums it up nicely is from David Horowitz (the ex-communist) on his web site it says on top "Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out". Well, he was right. What we are witnessing is totalitarian in outlook and spirit. No deviation is allowed. This is why the lockstep is so formidable. And they might take completely over this nation. They might rule that the republican party and libertarians etc are against the law (just as the Nazis did after Hitler came to power--it only took them 100 days to totally destroy their republic. We may have this in future if American Christians dont pray and repent. The entire world is headed for global communist rule of Antichrist, so from a Christian perspective, it has been determined to happen at some point in time. Thanks
Thanks, Arnold. Great post. I've also written a piece predicting that "The Good Guys will win in the end" (although I admit I vacillate on this prediction). I agree this might be a battle of Good vs. Real Evil. And that we need the faith community to lead this fight.
Did you see this column I wrote on "Good vs. Evil?"
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/the-real-battle-is-good-vs-evil?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Awesome article and bringing to light the notion of evil. One point to bring up, America and the west have been heading down this evil path for 100+ years of humanistic and communist inspired progressivism. The ultimate evil we are facing is the climate change hoax which is going to kill billions around the globe...
the lies are so numerous that we have embraced and taking a bath in them--they are cordwood stacked to the heavens like the tower of Babel. C-vxx is just the tip of the spear. We as a nation are likely under judgment for these things according to the word that Paul wrote in Romans 1 and as outlined in Deut chapter 28. The lies and evil that America has embraced and spawned can only be defeated by truth and only by the Spirit of God and Jesus Christ who can deliver us. It is not going to happen by the will of man or wisdom or by force alone. I believe Christians who believe in prayer must take the vanguard on this.
My friend Dr. Stewart Tankersely of Montgomery, Alabama keeps making the same points, which I find very convincing. I need to put y'all in touch with one another.
You can more easily delete it.
My email is:
wjricejunior@gmail.com
It is my tendency to agree with you on these points Bill about having no accountability for whatever has been done and will continue to be done. A new mayor was just elected here in Toronto who will no doubt be following the Trudea... a, Sing...NDP / Liberal agenda saying at this time she doesn't think she will be using the new mayoral powers - l'm looking forward to how long that statement lasts . When it is election time here again , I suspect young trudea. .., Klaus, Singe , along with Xi, will probably have a majority . So many people needing donations for their legal funds , it is hard not to think they remotely have any chance of winning since we have been sold out totally it seems to me.
So disheartening that Canadians would still elect that Mayor after everything that has been exposed these past few years. Why would anyone want to go further down this road? Canada it seems is hopeless.
At this point , at least where I live , there seems to be many people here coming out of the woodwork from Beijing , and the government has been stalling about the CCP's interference with our elected officials and there is no mention of Klaus as the puppet master for the liberals and the NDP -as if he isn't there ! I suspect , and I hope I'm wrong , she could become like a Cary Lam in Hong Kong who did all the bidding to get rid of the democarcy that was there . Also I think there was a lot of $ put into her campaign by the current powers that be at this federal level. It's easy to take full advantage of mostly good- natured people who have no inclination that their government wants to either kill them or enslave them ,in my opinion.
Toronto is a key city in the ‘reset’ agenda. Very scary the parallels you draw with Hong Kong.
ExcessAU keeps coming up with scary examples from Australia, which makes me think this nation is somehow a template for what's to come world-wide.
What is it about Australia that seems to be the harbinger of things to come ? When I saw my GP many years ago , she would frequently threaten me with the worst case scenarios coming out of Australia because I wouldn't take either the drugs or vaccines she suggested . I thought she was great for me, because I would do the opposite of what she suggested.
Imagine , just thinking I'd love to be wrong about this but , my leaps of thought points , drive the usual suspects in my family crazy - kind of why I have a closet full of tinfoil . My husband hates it when I tell him what is going to happen in a series we may be watching , because I can get there easily; he is swimming in the shallow ends and I'm deep diving and seeing what's beneath most surfaces .
I cant watch many movies as as soon as it gets interesting my mind has seen the obvious end, or worked out 3 possible endings, which Im correct. The one that really caught me by surprise a long time ago was "sixth sense" watched it again the other day and even knowing I still felt it was fabulous
Just saw this Wendy as I may be on different time lines from you or reading so many things. I'm thinking the same way about re watching many movies again and loving them, but maybe it's more about forgetting what we already saw and it's new again - the advantages of pre senility! However when I reread some older books I find myself thinking , they were wasted on my youth because now I think I "sort of" get it !
Exactly. Canadians are generally testing of institutions. Most don’t get how easily Canada can fall into tyranny with the wrong leadership. There are very few safeguards and only recently have those limits to power been seriously compromised on every front.
It is becoming a bit clearer to me now , that some people are saying they don't like this government/ new mayor but will easily say they are happy to be 5 into the juice and don't seem to know that the virus could be spread regardless of the shots . Not an ioata of compassion for those who lost jobs /friends, and family members during this debacle .
I have worked around Canadians in the exploration mineral industry. Very decent fellows. I found them oddly trusting of government. Not that I tried but you couldn't make a dent in that faith. I brought up the Bill of Rights once to an RCMP guy in Haiti when the u.n. took over.
It was like a hog looking at a wristwatch.
The reaction was weird like I was in a real time 1984.
Uh, hate to point this out, but you are conflating deductive with inductive reasoning. Logic is deductive: if the premises of a valid argument are true, then the conclusion must be true. Must, as in, there is no possible world in which the conclusion are false and premises are true. There are a variety of deductive logics: boolean, first order, second order, modal, etc.
As soon as you use terms like 'probably' and 'predict', you are using inductive reasoning. Sometimes people use those terms when they are making analogical arguments. Dr. Spock abuses the term 'logic': in the Star Trek (vulgar) interpretation, logic is just about anything.
Susan Haack's books are a good place to start in understanding how deductive systems work. Any university textbook on symbolic logic is worth a read.
Good explanation.
"Dr. Spock abuses the term 'logic': in the Star Trek (vulgar) interpretation, logic is just about anything." That would be *Mr.* Spock. Dr. Spock was a pediatrician. Sorry for the knee-jerk nerd reaction.
I disagree, logic is not limited to deductive reasoning. My degree is in math, philosophy was one of my minors, and I took every logic course in the department, loved the topic. After all, trying to figure shiites out is one of the main points of life IMO. That was over 50 years ago so I don't remember all the definitions as you do, but I did just look up the definition of logic and did not find anything that limited it to using deductive reasoning. When you see the same patterns repeatedly, and expect the exact opposite next time, is that not illogical? Of course it's possible somebody has defined logic as only applicable to the use of deductive reasoning. That doesn't make it the universally recognized definition.
I should have looked up the definitions of "logic" and "deductive reasoning." I remember I also took a course in college on "logic." It all made intuitive sense to me. I'd been using it without knowing I was using it.
That course was worthwhile as it helped students understand all the "logical fallacies" of arguments/claims.
Seems to me the concept of logic has more in common with deductive than inductive reasoning. But it's not the same. Deductive reasoning has a narrow, well-defined definition. "Logic", as commonly used, is a broader term. It's always seemed to me it means looking at evidence and coming to a reasonable conclusion, that's consistent with that evidence, regardless of the method of reasoning used. IOW, if you know absolutely nothing about astronomy but expect the sun to come up tomorrow, you are being more logical than someone who thinks it finally is going to stop doing that. Logical, but inductive, not deductive reasoning.
I spent 12 hours over the past week listening to Scott Horton's recent 12 hr podcast covering all things Waco. I was 18 when Waco happened, a senior in high school. I remember the watching the nightly news and thinking what a bunch of freaks - other than that I was busy working at an after school job most nights and didn't pay attention. I first learned what really happened in Waco around 2010 with the advent of YouTube and podcasts. I can't think of anything I've ever learned about atrocities committed by our government that made me more libertarian/anti-government than Waco. I was a conservative, and then I saw what the government can do to law-abiding citizens. No government created in the land of the free and home of the brave should be allowed to have that kind of power. If you are completely lost at what I am saying you can watch this on YouTube. https://youtu.be/Xr9pQ1pIbiU
The Branch Davidians only crime was not paying a tax on some of their guns, a misdemeanor offense. Being in what most people call "a cult" isn't a crime. The underage sex accusations were investigated by local law enforcement. Those alleged crimes, while they probably were true, don't fall under the jurisdiction of either the ATF or the FBI.
My point in bringing up Waco is this: There was so much public outrage that congressional hearings were held. Then an Academy Award nominated documentary "Waco: Rules of Engagement" and a follow up documentary "Waco: A New Revelation" were released. There is FLIR infrared video of 2 men leaving one of the tanks and shooting rapid automatic rifles into Mt. Carmel to murder the residents. 15 bodies with bullet wounds were found in the part of the residence, and the FBI still to this day claims they never fired a single bullet during the assault. Then the Attorney General, due to more public outrage, assigned a special counsel to investigate. The Danforth Report of course absolved the federal government of any wrongdoing. So, these things have been going on for decades and will continue. If you are expecting the government to solve it's problems (or yours), you'll be waiting forever.
Don't look into Waco if you're worried about losing sleep.
Lisa,
Waco was laced with lies and cya tactics. Ruby Ridge was along those same lines. It became evident that the "forces" involved were testing the waters, to see what the public would endure. The media was complicit as well.
What is your stance on OK. City Murrah bldg attack? Have you done the due diligence required to know about that ordeal? And of course, to leave out the biggest false flag operation of that time, (Twin Towers and bldg 9 or was it 7) would be lame. The evidence that was quickly brought to the table, by smart, and experts in their fields, was given an "audience" but it was squashed by propaganda, and to this very day, not one single thing was done about any of it!
Sure it pales in comparison to the c-19 planned ordeal, but it was so very "in your face" and dramatic in its audacity, scope, and response from the duped public.
The second amendment was penned to correct the overreach issues, but was circumvented by the people, who it might otherwise have protected. So we can't sit here and complain, as we do nothing. Blood was not just "spilled" but was a torrent caused by the Govt backed jabs! We did nothing about that as well, and they've just grown stronger with longer K-9s! Wait until they proclaim ANY dissention in written or oral form is prosecutable and a felony. Maybe that's already in gear and moving. Wait until they show up on your front porch, and cover your back door as well, and demand you take the necessary jab which they'll force on you, or take you to a camp. This is coming. I can feel it. It's late in the game to bitch and moan about how deceitful they are, with no heart, or conscience as they murder God's creation, "we the people."
I have no hope for the future of this world, other than when Jesus Christ will arrive in person to resurrect the dead in Christ, and gather the living saints with them, and take them all to heaven for the milenium. forgive my spelling. Then, the entire world will be ravaged and turned upside down in a chaotic mess of destruction. THAT will be the beginning of the fix to the problem. .
Sorry I don't have a nicer picture to share. The Truth is often harsh.
Yours
Ray
already have and agree with you. Oklahoma city has some issues as well. So does Ruby Ridge. And the murder of the rancher in a roadblock.
Waco sounds like another JFK.