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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I know Alex lives in the northeast and people in the Northeast might be more likely to trust the teachings of college professors. But in the Southeast, many parents might be more receptive to the proposition that college faculty members are trying to not-so-secretly spread socialism and wokism among their captive students.

Again, just because someone has some impressive-sounding credential doesn’t mean they are right … right?

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Baldmichael's avatar

Right!

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Bill Hull's avatar

Thanks for another insightful article.

Over the past three years (or maybe the past twenty-two years, or maybe even longer), I have shared my thoughts with my friends. Oftentimes they thought I was crazy, but sometimes they eventually came to the same conclusions.

The so-called "pandemic" basically blind-sided us, and it was hard to know what to believe. My initial reaction was that on the one hand, this was a deadly disease for which we had to go to extreme measures to "flatten the curve" - or, alternatively, the whole thing was a hoax and a fraud. What I told people early on was that the truth was somewhere in between these two extremes. Of course, the more I learned, the more I leaned toward the "hoax and fraud" perspective.

Going back in history, the "establishment" told us that butter and eggs were "bad" for us, due to "cholesterol and saturated fat." I never bought into that, and have eaten lots of real butter and fresh eggs all my life. Whenever the doctors test my cholesterol levels, they are the best they have ever seen! A few years ago, a dentist from California, as I recall, found a treasure trove of papers at some college library which documented that the studies blaming cholesterol and saturated fat for heart disease were done at the behest of the sugar industry! Imagine that.

So what I tell my friends: we have science-based medicine; we have the best science that money can buy; and that those that have the money, buy the science.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Thank you and eggs-actly. :)

Build Back Butter I say!

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/05/01/b-is-for-build-back-butter-and-avoid-margarine/

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Bill Hull's avatar

Thanks for the link to the article. I just printed it at the library and will read all of it later.

All of my life I have been a "butterholic." My mom, who grew up on a dairy farm, always had real butter in the house when I was growing up. But she always told me that I was putting "way too much" on a slice of toast. Guess what? I still put "way too much" on the one slice of Ezekiel Bread toast that I eat every morning.

Back in the 1970s, my great uncle, born in 1892, told me his doctor told him to quit eating eggs. I asked him "why?" He spit out, "Oh, Cholesterol, you know!"

What I have learned over the years is that whatever the medical system tells us to do, I do just the opposite!

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Baldmichael's avatar

Many thanks Bill, and now I know about Ezekiel Bread too as whilst I have read the book of Ezekiel I was unaware of the recipe.

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Bill Hull's avatar

If interested, you can look up Cristin E. Kearns, DDS, and the research she and others did on the sugar industry's involvement about seven or eight years ago.

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SimulationCommander's avatar

https://news.gallup.com/poll/266060/big-pharma-sinks-bottom-industry-rankings.aspx

Big Pharma Sinks to the Bottom of U.S. Industry Rankings

The pharmaceutical industry is now the most poorly regarded industry in Americans' eyes, ranking last on a list of 25 industries that Gallup tests annually. Americans are more than twice as likely to rate the pharmaceutical industry negatively (58%) as positively (27%), giving it a net-positive score of -31.

Published on SEPTEMBER 3, 2019.

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David Cashion's avatar

Was their approval ranking ever high?

Real question

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Not until it became a political necessity to support Big Pharma.......

If Trump had won, it would have been exactly the opposite..........which is why Biden had to win.

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Teri Anglim's avatar

Many of us are now trying to resolve differences of opinion on what has transpired since 2020. It appears to me that whether smart or not, the majority of my friends and all but one in my family cannot see how they have donned the Emperor's New Clothes and are stuck in that attire, From statistics, studies, and just plain common sense they do not see the writing on the wall. When they can't answer a question, they usually just say you can't trust the internet...What??? I am afraid the majority will remain in their cult: convinced our government did no wrong - not to mention the rest of the gang. I'll try again but am not too hopeful.

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Teri Anglim's avatar

THESE ARE PRICELESS!! Thank you for a well needed uplift. It is so good to know that there really are people out there that have had their thinking caps on.....It will be a long time before I can accept their blindness and along with that, their self righteousness.

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SQ's avatar

Yes, let's sow seeds. One here one there. You never know when one will take root. Hope.

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David Cashion's avatar

Trump was and is the dividing line.

It's love or hate the Donald.

It's going to be with us for a generation.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

That's nuts. Unfathomable even. Love Trump's stance on peace. Hate Warp Speed and his trust in institutions (although this seems to be finally shifting). People can't have nuanced opinions anymore?

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David Cashion's avatar

The TDS kills that

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

TDS is absolutely real and has to be a result of some serious Operation Paperclip style 1984 cyberpunk propaganda. I could not believe it when I saw it. Literal screaming and foaming at the mouth. All I could think was "why are you so against US domestic manufacturing? What the hell am I missing here?"

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David Cashion's avatar

I think we agree.

Those suffering from severe cases of TDS are Useful Idiots"

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Bill Hull's avatar

Excellent!

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Thorsten's avatar

I tried many of these things on my family, including the questions: How many people do you personally know who suffered from severe Covid? Do you really think the media is honest and unbiased? Are you really convinced the government only cares about your health and well being?

Nothing worked. Mass formation is a real thing. The best I got was occasionally a confused pause when they tried to process the obvious dissonance. During the next psyop, I may have to look more at psychological methods on how to break a spell.

But it is easier when there is no relentless 24/7 fear propaganda ramped up to 11, like with the "Russia blew up its own pipeline" nonsense, it took me only a few minutes to debunk that simply by pointing out who has to gain and who has to lose from such an operation.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

"During the next psyop, I may have to look more at psychological methods on how to break a spell."

Me too, Thorsten. Human psychology is the key.

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Baldmichael's avatar

I question if it really was blown up anyway.

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Gemma Star's avatar

Here's something that I have found helps.

I ask people to go to any search engine they please and enter the following words in more or less any order: "FDA approved + recalled drugs".

Several different lists of recalled drugs come up complete with side-effects and reasons for withdrawal. Death is included in almost every withdrawn medication that I have checked.

Most medications were on the market for many years before the evidence accumulated. (Years on the market is listed for each drug.)

I always point out:

1/ All the recalled drugs had PASSED the regulatory gauntlet;

2/ Were on the market, sometimes for years; and

3/ Nevertheless were found to be so dangerous that they were ultimately withdrawn

The Covid-19 injections are available under "Emergency Use Authorization" only. Not a good sign.

Given all the above, I conclude by asking: "Do you STILL want to risk getting the injection? Or getting boostered?"

I have never received an answer but I do think I've provoked thought. That's the most I can hope for....

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David Cashion's avatar

Ha

What a lucky man you are.

You have friends in which can suffer your opinions and they yours.

Most of us are without your luck.

Trumpism has separated us.

Most of us, are lucky to still have some family members who can't stand our opinions.

When Trump got elected 40% of friends became ghosts. They couldn't stand to be around you.

That's never going change.

On flipping a vax supporter, ask if they agree with this definition.

"A rushed vaccine for an unknown virus".

How likely is it that something could go wrong with that?

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Succinct and excellent question. I'll use it in the future (I think I already have).

On flipping a vax supporter, ask if they agree with this definition.

"A rushed vaccine for an unknown virus".

How likely is it that something could go wrong with that?

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

I saw people posting on social media to their own friends and family that if they 'voted for Trump they should hang themselves.' And those people eagerly lined up for the "Trump vaccine." Mind-boggling. The way I see it is that this is the extension of Operation Paperclip + 80 years and the propaganda has been weaponised incredibly well.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Yes. "We hate Trump! Trump endorses the vaccine. We will get the vaccine!"

What a bunch of loonies.

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JLK's avatar

'became the most militant defenders of the man'

YES!!! WHY???

Is it fear of death? Can that very simple, very small reason be the reason??? WE ALL DIE. How can that be the explanation for their indoctrination?? I will never understand how humans with the power of celebrity FAILED.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I know. Where are our celebrities with a big and potentially influential megaphone when we need them?

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Dennis D. Duffy's avatar

Nailed it. Well done.

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SaHiB's avatar

Though it could have killed me (choking spasms), I didn't know anyone who died of covid, or even of the maltreatment for it. However, pot and HDTV have greatly increased in potency since once upon a time these people didn't trust these same 'experts'. Expose yourself to neither, and suggest to your friends they do likewise. Too many of my relatives do trust Joe Biden. While I doubt they smoke weed or take any form of THC, they watch HDTV.

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Andrew N's avatar

Reading your article I couldn't help but think of the Carl Sagan Quote,

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

People just seem to not want to change their mind.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Many "likes."

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Lisa P's avatar

You're too late. Most of the friendships I had with people who swallowed the government/media narrative on CV19 have already ended. These were people who considered themselves libertarians, and I'd met most of them during the 2012 Ron Paul campaign. So they were already well aware of government/media lies and corruption on so many topics. Almost all of them were millennial med students when I met them 12 years ago. Very disappointing.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Yes, very disappointing indeed.

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MM's avatar

With respect I don't think convincing people in the North East is about any of the above. It's about dupe-ability.

People in the North East, and other Liberal bastions pride themselves on their pricey and well chosen education. This gives them entree into the elite they want to be associated with and the elite they want their children to work with and marry into.

Yet this education gives them a blind pride which shields them from the (to be avoided at all costs) idea that they might have made a mistake. If they have, -oh my ! - they might not belong to the 'club' they bought into, and then they'll be found out to be imposters capable of independent thought - which is not allowed in the club either.

Only if one of the higher up elites have second thoughts about a prevailing narrative can these 'smart' ones risk thinking for themselves. They simply are not sure enough of their voice outside 'the club' and to speak first would subject their fragile egos to the thought : "I've been duped !"

And all of us who try to convince them, are not in the club anyway and they know it and are only tolerating our helpful entreaties.

Pray for them.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Well said. It's all about getting into the "club" ... and then staying in the club. If you depart from the orthodoxy or club-endorsed thinking, you are expelled and punished ... and people are afraid of this happening, so they remain silent even if they do harbor a few contrarian thoughts.

But this probably is the main reason people go to these pricey and "elite" universities. It actually makes sense ... if you want to be a part of the dominant and most powerful/influential club.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I might all tell her there’s this maxim that says, “follow the money.” Sometimes the maxim is: “Always follow the money.” I’d be curious if she’d ever head of this maxim and, if so, does she think this is good advice?

Does she think Pharmaceutical companies (and the politicians whose campaign war chests are funded by Big Pharma) might have a financial incentive to sell products that they know are not “safe” for everyone? Would this incentive be even larger if such companies - by law - could not be sued?

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Oh, it's worse than that.

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